UnwilfulExpenditure Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Falcon Media said: Why are these comments being removed ? Why the secrecy ? Does anyone know why this is happening ? We all know why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreho (Rehzzo SASU) Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 This update has changed my look to the future too and it’s more than possible that we will start to find alternatives before we’ll grow up since we plan to start building our new datacenter in Q4, increasing by the same way our active customers number. I have actually no idea about good web hosting management softwares, but I’m pretty sure than companies that are supposed to pay more than thousand dollars monthly will start creating their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isdoo Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 10 hours ago, johannes said: I´m switching to the new WiseCP. https://www.wisecp.com which is mentioned on the DirectAdmin website under Extras (aside ******) With WiseCP you can even get a free version with up to 25 endcustomers. I just did a testinstallation, and can say that it looks like a much more better designed WHMCS, and its easier to setup, whereas it has almost the same functions. Doesn't seem to link to Nominet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonics Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 i'm very disapointed about that decission and they even made the price higher again since yesterday evening from 1000 clients for 25 dollar now towards 45 dollar. it just ridiculous. we are whmcs customer since 9 years and they allready doubled the support price few years ago which was ok but now a price increase from over 450%....just mad. i mean it's not a perfect tool at all but is very usable with a lot of little tweaks via hooks and lot of extension modules. i just missing the words about that all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krokos Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 10 hours ago, alc said: Apparently WHMCS don't care if they lose hundreds or even thousands of customers. They'll make up the income with the extortionate fees they will charge the few remaining suckers who stay. I have to wonder if an extremely high customer attrition rate after this stunt was a calculated expectation on the part of WHMCS and is partly responsible for their ridiculous new pricing structure. You are right! Of course they were expecting this outrage and it has been calculated for sure. I have sent them a ticket regarding this and they have replied saying nothing more than what was already known. They conclude with a vague promise about what they are planning to do in the future but without any specific mention to functions or added value that would make the price increase more justifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pRieStaKos Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 How about the addons attached on Owned license ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonics Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 i'm very disapointed about that decission and they even made the price higher again since yesterday evening from 1000 clients for 25 dollar now towards 45 dollar. it just ridiculous. we are whmcs customer since 9 years and they allready doubled the support price few years ago which was ok but now a price increase from over 450%....just mad. i mean it's not a perfect tool at all but is very usable with a lot of little tweaks via hooks and lot of extension modules. i just missing the words about that all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindofmedia Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 40 minutes ago, pRieStaKos said: How about the addons attached on Owned license ?? According to the @whmcscares (oh the irony) twitter account they would be transferable. https://twitter.com/WHMCSCares/status/1379513686746927115?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian! Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 15 hours ago, isdoo said: Looks like several people have posted. yep, their score has gone from 4.6 yesterday to 3.5 today - so it's heading towards the same level it was a couple of years ago before the large number of one-line 5 star reviews started to appear on there... usually from users who haven't reviewed other sites - draw your own conclusions on that one! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptoone Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Continue the discussion on TrustPilot and g2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnwilfulExpenditure Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ptoone said: Continue the discussion on TrustPilot and g2. Already down from (Stolen from Brian! - I couldn't remember) 4.6 to 3.5 on trustpilot.... in less than 24 hours. I wonder how long until it drops below 2? Edited April 7, 2021 by chrisb2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graziano_68 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 This is *, go ahead to TrustPilot , g2 and class action soon . Spread this * on Twitter , Web hosting talk and everywhere ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptoone Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Here are some links to continue the discussion on other forums as WHMCS cannot be trusted: https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1842498 https://computertalkforum.com/discussion/2476/whmcs-instantly-voids-lifetime-licenses-after-previously-promising-otherwise/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFoot Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Hoping they suffer the same fate as Sirius when people bought their 'lifetime license' and didnt honor them. Buckle up whmcs, buckle up. https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/consumer-products/subscriptions/971878-siriusxm-to-pay-96m-to-end-lifetime-subscription-class-action/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isdoo Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 5 hours ago, brian! said: yep, their score has gone from 4.6 yesterday to 3.5 today - so it's heading towards the same level it was a couple of years ago before the large number of one-line 5 star reviews started to appear on there... usually from users who haven't reviewed other sites - draw your own conclusions on that one! 3.1 I guess most will be removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isdoo Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 5 hours ago, brian! said: yep, their score has gone from 4.6 yesterday to 3.5 today - so it's heading towards the same level it was a couple of years ago before the large number of one-line 5 star reviews started to appear on there... usually from users who haven't reviewed other sites - draw your own conclusions on that one! 3.1 I guess most will be removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian! Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, isdoo said: 3.1 maybe one of two, e.g those that mention scams etc might get removed... but I think most of the rest should be fine. it'll be below 3 by the end of the week. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGettingRatherFrustrated Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 3.0 now at this rate it might be below 2 by the end of the week - self inflicted stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragonz Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Its early days yet but I suspect we will be moving away from WHMCS as well. Our price increase would be 8400%! per month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnwilfulExpenditure Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 3 hours ago, MrGettingRatherFrustrated said: 3.0 now at this rate it might be below 2 by the end of the week - self inflicted stupidity. I hope as many as possible leave their honest reviews! It gives potential victims customers an insight into the company! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opso Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2.8 already... This is the beginning of the end for WHMCS business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbino Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 hours ago, opso said: 2.8 already... This is the beginning of the end for WHMCS business. Let's not forget that's not what we want... we want WHMCS to come to their senses and apologize and cancel the changes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opso Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, mbino said: Let's not forget that's not what we want... we want WHMCS to come to their senses and apologize and cancel the changes.. Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnwilfulExpenditure Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 50 minutes ago, mbino said: Let's not forget that's not what we want... we want WHMCS to come to their senses and apologize and cancel the changes.. Serious question - would you trust them if they did backtrack? If they do back down it'll be to implement a series of price rise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2.6 currently, and they won't change their minds on this. It's done. Just like the unsavory changes last time (and the ones at Cpanel), the anger will fade over time if they sit back and let us rant, then they quietly cull the posts they don't like, send people to praise at trustpilot and go on with their lives. A number of owned license holders will actually leave for other systems, some will (foolishly) stay, and the bottom line won't be affected much. They view owned licenses as a loss now, since the recurring income isn't enough. Leased is a stream of money that is far more attractive, and the price hikes for those will probably start again early/mid 2022 or so, once the new levels are in effect for a while. Trust me, they have a plan, all written out. As soon as we can we're moving on. My leaving won't cause them any concern. In fact, all the owned license holders leaving won't either. They will push the leased licenses, and that's that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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