pRieStaKos Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 33 minutes ago, silver dayna said: The hike of price can be because of this ? Just saying. https://webpros.com/news/webpros-acquires-socialbee/ New “feature” in WHMCS to resell incoming !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) I also tried out Blesta a few years ago, it was a complete nightmare. Everything I tried to do required making code changes, which requires being a developer, even the most basic simple things. It just wasn;t nice to use at all. the support was awful as was the community, both of which were very arrogant simps that just attack you if you dare point out any issues with Belsta or things that WHMCS can do that it cannot. The best alternative I have found so far was upmind.com I was seriously considering switching, but then they adopted the WHMCS pricing model which made it more expensive as they also charge for extra admin users. It does have some nice features that many of us have been waiting many years for, such as multibrand. Edited October 10 by snake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomex Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 50 minutes ago, pRieStaKos said: New “feature” in WHMCS to resell incoming !! Yep you can bet your life it's the next "big feature" coming to WHMCS. The all new "Social Bee Marketconnect integration" 😴 Edited October 10 by zomex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 On 10/9/2024 at 2:54 PM, Evolve Web Hosting said: Am I the only one scratching my head saying 'what did they add that was useful to me?' My thoughts exactly. It's becoming depressing, really. So many broken things, so many great feature requests. And the threat of European e-invoicing in the horizon which they refuse to even acknowledge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsa Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 On 10/9/2024 at 1:41 PM, pRieStaKos said: Another Price Increase, after a year of useless features..... Cheers If cPanel increases the price then WHMCS is going to do the same. I think every year they going to increase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pRieStaKos Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 11 hours ago, wsa said: If cPanel increases the price then WHMCS is going to do the same. I think every year they going to increase. Not the same products although. cPanel’s features are actually useful… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomex Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 19 hours ago, Evolve Web Hosting said: It is good that they are taking the initiative. The software is still too far behind (and in Beta I believe) that it can't be run in a production environment right now. Yeah agreed. It is very far behind but heading in the right direction. An open source alternative can only be a good thing for competiton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 i took a look at fossbilling, it does barely anything currently, so I don;t hold any hope for this at all, considering how many years its been around. upmind still looks like best alternative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 34 minutes ago, snake said: i took a look at fossbilling, it does barely anything currently, so I don;t hold any hope for this at all, considering how many years its been around. upmind still looks like best alternative. I just took a look at the features, roadmap, per-user pricing and their user forums. It seems to be a case of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss". Also it's SaaS, and I don't trust anyone to host my customer's details and server connections. Their website looks nice, though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 24 minutes ago, stormy said: I just took a look at the features, roadmap, per-user pricing and their user forums. It seems to be a case of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss". Also it's SaaS, and I don't trust anyone to host my customer's details and server connections. Their website looks nice, though... I don't think its that bad, they seem way more flexible than WHMCS as everything is not geared around making money from a marketplace like WHMCS. But I wasn't happy about the way they changed the pricing. I also like the fact that its SAAS, so I don't have to worry about updates breaking things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomex Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 hour ago, snake said: i took a look at fossbilling, it does barely anything currently, so I don;t hold any hope for this at all, considering how many years its been around. upmind still looks like best alternative. upmind looks absolutely horrible. Their pricing structure is even worse than WHMCS and it's fully hosted on their servers. I wouldn't touch that. I believe the best alternative (I know Bear has had issues) looking at the software only is Blesta. It's been around a long time, much less features but stable and well priced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 5 hours ago, stormy said: it's SaaS, and I don't trust anyone to host my customer's details and server connections. This ^^. I also don't trust passwords in the cloud and so on. It may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they *aren't* out to get you. 😉 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) Chech this out: https://killbill.io/ Edit: Okay, not there yet. Edited October 14 by Mandalorian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 17 hours ago, bear said: This ^^. I also don't trust passwords in the cloud and so on. It may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they *aren't* out to get you. 😉 Regardless of where you host it, you still face risks. Just because it's your own server doesn't mean it's more secure. In fact, chances are it is less secure because most people with their own servers are not security experts and have done nothing extra to lock down and secure their servers. Almost every single client I have ever had who runs their own server has had vulnerabilities as nobody was keeping it or the software on it updated. Password manager apps have very high security, they all have certifications and go through penetration tests and audits. Even if they did get hacked and all the data stolen, it is all encrypted by your master password. this is literally the only way to be secure for most people otherwise they would just us the same password on every site or use their email inbox as their password manager. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardman Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) I would expect another 20% increase next year as well. Combined with previous price increases, it is causing us to take a very hard look at our situation moving forward. Edited October 15 by mustardman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardman Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) On 10/9/2024 at 7:39 AM, Evolve Web Hosting said: The hard part is 'who do you switch to?' Blesta was a disaster the first time around and I don't want to revisit and waste the time there again. How long ago did you look at it? It seems to have improved a lot over the years. The ability to go in and tweak the code yourself seems like a huge plus if you are comfortable doing that. Edited October 15 by mustardman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsa Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 On 10/11/2024 at 4:44 AM, pRieStaKos said: Not the same products although. cPanel’s features are actually useful… Yes, I know that but I see when cPanel increases their price whmcs do the same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 Just now, wsa said: Yes, I know that but I see when cPanel increases their price whmcs do the same. Same owners. This should surprise no one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomex Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Same company "Web Pros" also own Plesk. Expect big price rises coming soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver dayna Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Any good alternative guys ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomex Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 hours ago, silver dayna said: Any good alternative guys ? Sadly at this point I would say no but the competition is brewing and it's only a matter of time before WHMCS see a lot of clients switching. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 34 minutes ago, zomex said: the competition is brewing and it's only a matter of time before WHMCS see a lot of clients switching That same sentiment was present when WHMCS had that serious security issue in 2013 that resulted in Cpanel getting involved, and the only one that got attention was Blesta, who then essentially dropped the ball. I hold little hope these price increases will cause mass exodus any time even remotely soon. Sad but true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadWebHosting Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 On 10/9/2024 at 11:32 AM, zomex said: I am starting to route heavily for all "Web Pros" competitors: - Blesta - DirectAdmin Since there's obviously no antitrust regulations on hosting softwares, I wouldn't be surprised to see these acquired and their user bases forcefully migrated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolve Web Hosting Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 I think all anybody needs to see is this. Does anyone remember a survey maybe 1.5 - 2 years ago where they asked about what was missing from hosting providers, etc? I think this is their answer to that survey. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cpanel_cpanel-revenueshare-partnerprogram-activity-7246676219654512640-zHMJ?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 On 10/14/2024 at 3:10 PM, snake said: Password manager apps have very high security, they all have certifications and go through penetration tests and audits. Even if they did get hacked and all the data stolen, it is all encrypted by your master password. High security, yet hacked. I get what you're saying, but not all are that secure, and I simply won't trust them. Out of my control is out of my control. 😉 Sorry for the delayed reply, the powers that be are holding posts for moderation, since you can't be too careful someone might saying something negative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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