justinsigner Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) Dear All, For one thing, I have to say that eger has the right business insights. Like I said before I am willing to sell the product ENCODED, for between 150 to 200 euros a pop, if there is enough interest I will have to rebebuild it with a config page and then sell it. I made some admin shots of our test environment. See below: http://crm.spango.com/temp/client.gif http://crm.spango.com/temp/equip.gif http://crm.spango.com/temp/add_equipment.gif http://crm.spango.com/temp/apc.gif http://crm.spango.com/temp/ip.gif http://crm.spango.com/temp/ip_sub.gif http://crm.spango.com/temp/switches.gif http://crm.spango.com/temp/switches_sub.gif http://crm.spango.com/temp/rack.gif http://crm.spango.com/temp/rack_sub.gif Edited February 5, 2009 by justinsigner spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik H. Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Very interested here !! (Or as we say it dutch: Wow, vet cool, gaaf hahaha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicToMeyeZR Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 well unless the price is $75 USD or less I sign off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DataHosts Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 well unless the price is $75 USD or less I sign off. +1 for me on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbwebhosts Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Can you demo for me. I might just buy. I'm looking at ubersmith, but want to keep EVERYTHING in one system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbwebhosts Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) oh yeah, greg @ username .com or cell phone: 1-318-469-0034 Edited February 5, 2009 by gbwebhosts add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npTechnologies Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) We would be interested once a more reasonable price is reached. We have already integrated cacti graphs into our client area, and were in the process of adding APC reboot integration with some help from Matt. All @ no extra cost to us other than time involved. But this system may be worth spending some money on, but I'll be honest $50 or $75 doesn't sound fair to the developer either. Look at what Ubersmith DE costs, a minimum of $450 PER MONTH and even higher if you go over 200 devices. Paying even $200 to $250 one-time for such an add-on is a deal and I hope the developer doesn't get frustrated and pull the plug. WHMCS makes money through volume, but not every WHMCS user needs this add-on and at $50 each if I had the system I would keep it to myself rather than give it away. Now, saying that, the original asking price is definitely a bit much and something more reasonable as stated above needs to be considered and it will be a more profitable venture for the developer in my opinion. Edited February 6, 2009 by themicro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicToMeyeZR Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 We would be interested once a more reasonable price is reached. We have already integrated cacti graphs into our client area, and were in the process of adding APC reboot integration with some help from Matt. All @ no extra cost to us other than time involved. But this system may be worth spending some money on, but I'll be honest $50 or $75 doesn't sound fair to the developer either. Look at what Ubersmith DE costs, a minimum of $450 PER MONTH and even higher if you go over 200 devices. Paying even $200 to $250 one-time for such an add-on is a deal and I hope the developer doesn't get frustrated and pull the plug. WHMCS makes money through volume, but not every WHMCS user needs this add-on and at $50 each if I had the system I would keep it to myself rather than give it away. Now, saying that, the original asking price is definitely a bit much and something more reasonable as stated above needs to be considered and it will be a more profitable venture for the developer in my opinion. You also have to realize the Cacti is a FREE open source project. All this *developer* did was create the interface. He has no rights to be so blatantly ridiculous with a price like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlF Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) ... *developer* ... blatantly ridiculous ... very serious Sorry. He has this rights. It was his time, work, research and knowledge to develop that Addon. He is free to charge anything he wants to. Again: If you think the addon isn't it's price worth, do it yourself. Develop your own addon, or ask a freelancer to do so. Edited February 6, 2009 by AxlF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npTechnologies Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 You say all this developer did was create the interface. Well, that is the whole magic to this. He is not charging for the graphs, he is charging for the interface that puts them there and this took a great deal of work on his part. Plus it does a lot more than just that. It's not like he went in and added a couple of lines of code and there you have it. It took hard work to get this accomplished. I agree the original asking price is out of line for this, unless he was developing it for just one or two people. If you hired a developer to do this for you, there is no way you would walk away with this even at that price. But $50 and $75 is an insult to the developer for such a module, if it does what it's supposed to do and has the features stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DataHosts Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 </thread> before it becomes a bigger deal and gets out of hand. He has stated his price, so, lets all drop it. If he wants to come down on the price he will and on his time. Lets just let him ask what he wants for his mods. I will look at other solutions. Good luck with this MOD and it is a great feature....looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striddy Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 </thread> before it becomes a bigger deal and gets out of hand. I agree. Time to close this thread and sit back and see what eventuates. He's heard many forum members viewpoints and will create whatever MOD he wants and sell it for however much he wants. I'm sure we will see more announcements regarding this MOD in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicToMeyeZR Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 very serious Sorry. He has this rights. It was his time, work, research and knowledge to develop that Addon. He is free to charge anything he wants to. Again: If you think the addon isn't it's price worth, do it yourself. Develop your own addon, or ask a freelancer to do so. Yup, anyone could do that. If would cost them about $500-750 for that. wow. go figure. That price sounds familiar doesn't it. Here is the difference. I WOULD OWN IT. and could then sell it for a MUCH more reasonable price, and get the money back off multiple sales, not every single sale pays it off. o, well..... You are right about one thing. He can do what ever he wants. He can also never sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efisher Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 You also have to realize the Cacti is a FREE open source project. All this *developer* did was create the interface. He has no rights to be so blatantly ridiculous with a price like that. VicToMeyeZR, if you think this is the first time someone is charging a price to put an interface on open source code, then you must be living in a cave. There are many companies, small and large, that are doing it. Redhat, Sendmail, Barracuda Networks, and Astaro are four such companies making a living off of putting a custom interface on free software and none of those are doing it cheaply. Yes, you can get the code and create your own interface and there is a time and money investment to do that. If you can do that, then great. But, there will be some out there that don't have the time, the patience, the experience, desire, or ambition to do it themselves. And for those companies, there will be value in this project. Now whether or not that value is $1000, I'm still not sure for my own uses, but there is definitely value. This is what open source is all about. Some people leverage it for completely free software while others leverage it for building blocks of great proprietary software and they have every right to charge for what they believe the VALUE of the software is. There is nothing illegal or immoral about it. For most open source licenses, the only requirement for those wishing to use the code in proprietary works is that you provide access to the source code and any changes you make to the source code of the licensed software. If the work doesn't modify any previously existing code, then you have rights to create any interfaces you want and there is no requirement to share the stuff you wrote. If you don't believe this module provides that much value, then move along. Otherwise, contact the developer off-line and make him a reasonable offer. The market will influence his price. If nobody makes an offer, then I'm sure the price will come down or get pulled. I suspect however, that of all of the WHMCS customers out there, there are enough out there that will see the value that this can provide to their customers and can justify the expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinsigner Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 Like I said in one of my earlier posts: I will sell the complete system encoded with ioncube for 200 euro. Everybody who is interested PM me, I will start the conversion to a commercial module soonest. Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striddy Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Now, can we close this thread please ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Now, can we close this thread please ?? Sounds about right. For the record, we've removed a few posts that were name calling and rude. That's not allowed here, so either move along or take it to PM next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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