openmind Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Finally Nominet have seen the light On 1 May 2012 we will be introducing multi-year registration periods so that .uk domain names can be registered and renewed for between 1 and 10 years. The roll-out plan and technical implications for deployment are detailed on our website: http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrars/systems/Plannedchanges/developmentroadmap/multiyear/ A technical specification with the details of the EPP and Automaton commands that will be used with the new functionality will be made available to registrars from the end of January and will be announced in our February pre-release confirmation. A summary of key dates are as follows: * 31 Jan 2012 - EPP & Automaton instructions online * 02 Apr 2012 - Testbed available * 01 May 2012 - Launch multi-year registration periods I assume the Nominet module is going to be updated to take advantage of this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmind Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Bumpity bump 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m8internet Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 As I understand this revised setup it only applies to Registrars As a reseller the current registration, transfer, and renewal process stays in place The only change is from IPSTAG to EPP key 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmind Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 That's correct. As a tag holder we will be able to offer extended registrations so whmcs needs to be able to cope with that. Luckily it looks the provisioning system will be backwards compatible so if a two year request is sent through it will still work so I guess just a tweak required in the module to allow between 1 and 10 years is required. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHMCS CEO Matt Posted January 25, 2012 WHMCS CEO Share Posted January 25, 2012 Hi, We shouldn't need to make any changes to the Nominet module for this. We already have the reg period info being passed to Nominet even currently with the 2 years only restriction, so hopefully all you will need to do when this comes into effect is configure the additional years & pricing you want to offer in Setup > Domain Pricing. Matt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmind Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Good stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent1 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Wow, from IPSTAG to EPP key - at last!! Matt, I think this will require a WHMCS update? Thanks, - Vincent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmind Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 I'm not aware of any planned change in the transfer system for UK domains and I sincerely hope they don't go down the route of EPP keys, domain locking and verification emails. The present system works absolutely fine and I have less problems with UK domain transfers than any other extension... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 By EPP, they don't mean the keys you'd use with other extensions. http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrars/systems/epp/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmind Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 See that what was I was thinking not the changes to the IPS tag system 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJ Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 The changes are now live on Nominet. Just tested by adding a price for 4 years registration for .co.uk in WHMCS. Registration fails with "Error: Command syntax error". I would imagine this is due to the new fields (three of them) that are needed in the new EPP format. WHMCS please see here http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrars/systems/data/MYRP/ <domain:period unit="y">1</domain:period> needs to be added to the Nominet EPP module for regitrations and renewals. The ordered years from the cart then need to populate that value. This needs to be implemented ASAP please. Current 2 years default still works fine, but we would like to use the new feature. Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmind Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Brilliant. Despite this being raised months ago, changes are actually required to make it work 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xperience Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 +1 - need this urgent please (including module for 4.3.x) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m8internet Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 How odd, looks like Nominet haven't remembered about this themselves Their renewal notice for Domain Names nearing expiry still has "two years" on it! External renewals remain at two years as well At least the price list is now in place http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrars/fees/feeschedule/ £4.20 for 1 year £6.00 for 2 year and £3.00 for each additional year That is very competitive compared to .com .net .org and makes it more transparent for comparison now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHMCS CEO Matt Posted May 1, 2012 WHMCS CEO Share Posted May 1, 2012 The changes are now live on Nominet. Just tested by adding a price for 4 years registration for .co.uk in WHMCS. Registration fails with "Error: Command syntax error". I would imagine this is due to the new fields (three of them) that are needed in the new EPP format. WHMCS please see here http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrars/systems/data/MYRP/ <domain:period unit="y">1</domain:period> needs to be added to the Nominet EPP module for regitrations and renewals. The ordered years from the cart then need to populate that value. This needs to be implemented ASAP please. WHMCS has always had the period field implemented - it passes over whatever value you have in the registration period field of WHMCS, just until now it's always been a 2. And Nominet say the other 2 fields - auto-period and next-period - are supposed to be optional. So according to their documentation, no updates were needed. We'll check into it. http://blog.whmcs.com/?t=46926 Matt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m8internet Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Just tested by adding a price for 4 years registration for .co.uk in WHMCS Even years have always been possible Try an odd year and compare 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJ Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) 2 years was only ever possible. So 4 years is a valid test. Just added 1 year pricing for .co.uk for another test anyway. Same error "Command syntax error". Edited May 1, 2012 by JimJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m8internet Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 2 years was only ever possible. So 4 years is a valid test Odd, as I have completed two WHMCS installations for this, and even years were always possible Checked with one of these customers and they can confirm they have processed renewals for even years greater than 2 years However they put the 1 year into place and received the same error message (and presumably also applies to the other odd years) Which WHMCS version is installed? (I upgraded my other customers to v5.0.3 on 30 April) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xperience Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 m8internet - I can assure you that Nominet has only ever allowed two-year registrations only (until today)! Thanks Matt for looking into this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Yes these changes have started as of today, but i will be waiting a while before i implement these changes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xperience Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 ... but i will be waiting a while before i implement these changes Care to elaborate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m8internet Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Care to elaborate? You don't have to implement them immediately, you can continue to offer 2 years only I have already implemented the 1 year renewal, as some customers contacted me that they would prefer this option (as their renewal notices were sent during this overlap period) So far so good... Checking WHOIS and 1 year has been added This has made it easier for these businesses as the costs are then each year, not all over the place (one, plus one, two years) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjs32 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Hi, We have the same problem - when we try to renew for 5 years we get: "Command syntax error". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Care to elaborate? easy. reading this thread their is clearly a few bugs/issues to iron out, but also my clients are happy with the current 2 year process so their is no rush to implement these changes, also we do not need to offer these new changes if we do not want to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjs32 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 We are finding as well that if a client orders a uk domain for 1,3 or more years then it will not be registered,it will show: "Command syntax error". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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