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I figure that we users of WHMCS already know it is great software, so why shouldn't we enjoy a little branding. I absolutely hate unnecessary advertising. Lord knows we get enough of it on the net. But on the stuff I LIKE, and want to use to help make me a living, I do not really mind being "branded" as long as it is tasteful. The purpose of "branding removal" is so that clients will not have a link to explore and maybe to make them think you did a bunch of custom programming. Or maybe some even think that their clients may "look down" upon an "out of the box" solution. I myself do not. I mean just about every company uses QuickBooks. I certainly do not look down upon companies that do that. Just the way I do not look UP at companies that pay thousands to a programmer. It is just the way things are.

 

So, I say that because i figure Matt is a pretty smart guy, and if it makes him happy to keep the branding in the Admin area, I really could not care less. I WANT him happy so he continues to develop this truly excellent program.

 

Conversely, I do not allow certain logos/branding in my house, office or car. Say, for instance, AOL :)

 

And since Matt himself defines what the service is, and he defines it as the removal of branding from the client area, then that is not really half of the service, that is by definition the whole service :)

 

Myself, I hope to get my WHMCS customized and making me enough money so that I could consider branding removal, as i do believe pretty much in keeping any page as simple as possible FOR my clients, as they are usually pretty busy with their businesses making enough to pay me :) And a re also often easily confused by too many links.

 

But for now, I am happy to have the branding and not yet ready or able to pay for no branding. But I do very much appreciate the option.

 

You may be able to tell I am a very excited new user. I am moving my billing completely to this for the new year. Hopefully followed by the QuickBooks addon someone is doing. I believe Matt's business will triple if this addon is successfully programmed. Al I can say is keep the product stable :) That is always most important. And keep support good.

 

I am also hoping to learn enough to roll out a package to my clients using the addon and WHMCS, and hopefully add some serious $$$ to next year's income. Dave

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Dkent -- anyone who uses your WHMCS admin area knows it is WHMCS which is powering the system. Therefore, the removal of the branding line from the admin area is both pointless and redundant. The important thing with the branding removal is that the front end seen by the world will not mention 'powered by whmcs'. ;) I hope you understand this, and realize it is not necessary to argue about it.

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What makes you say that? - We pay for branding removal but aren't allowed to remove the branding on admin area? It's only half the service we paid for if you ask me.

The branded licences are described as "Powered by WHMCS link in the footer of your end-user client area". Therefore the no-branding licences do not have this; you're getting exactly what you pay for :)

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The branded licences are described as "Powered by WHMCS link in the footer of your end-user client area". Therefore the no-branding licences do not have this; you're getting exactly what you pay for :)

 

Not exactly. When something says "branding removal" it should be just that. It may only be a link within the admin area, but it's a type of "branding". Yes I know the system runs on WHMCS, but what if people have staff and they need to login? - They will see the link.

 

It shouldn't be up to WHMCS to decide whether the branding should be there or not, it should be a choice to it's "paying users", of which I am one. I am also upset to hear that Matt will not let us customize the admin area. We're allowed to have custom client login boxes, domain checker fields, templates etc, but why not the admin area? Seems silly to restrict that area.

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Hi!

I am newbie here, I pay for the no-branding license and just now found that I might just can't get rid of the Power by link on the admin area.

 

My case is that I have a third party partner and I need to give them some level of login to the admin area, for my best interests, if WHMCS can allow me to remove the Power By link, it will save my worry, I'd like to promote WHMCS freely on some hosting forums, but I really don't want people works with me knows I am using WHMCS.

And some people feel it is totally OK with that power by link, yes, if I give my in-house staffs login permission it is OK with me too, but we should know sometimes people just have different situations, right ?

 

So, I hope WHMCS can let us edit the login.php or have login.tpl for us to edit. Or, maybe pay $20/m for "Total removal", but that is a little bit odds, don't u think ?

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No not in the slightest. Please explain to us precisely why you think have a powered by whmcs in the admin area is going to cause a problem.

 

I will bet now you will not come up with a single valid reason. There is no security issue in the slightest and if you third party actually cares, it wouldn't take him five minutes to work out what was powering your billing system.

 

On that note, the coding for the billing system is not yours, it belongs to WHMCS so too right they should have their link in the admin area.

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I see this topic has been beat to death but I want to express my extreme disappointment. I really cannot believe that WHMCS sells an unbranded product that you cannot remove all the branding from. My staff does not need to be confused by the term WHMCS when managing customer accounts and other billing related information. I mean I don't need to remember that the software is WHMCS every time I login. I already know what it is because I purchased it. My staff refers to the /admin area of whmcs as the "SUPPORT PORTAL", when they see WHMCS many people get confused. If WHMCS has an issue with re-branding then why let customers remove the branding from the customer facing pages? Would that not be more important then the stupid admin login? I guess I don't see the logic in your decision to only allow WHMCS customers to remove the branding from specific locations. You are just causing confusion and frustration to your customer base. I love the WHMCS software and will continue to use it. However, I think this issue is pretty petty on the part of WHMCS and would make a lot of customers happy if they just allowed us to completely re-brand.

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Though I can't vouch that this isn't against the EULA. You can remove the images from the WHMCS admin area if you hire a designer or a developer to do it. Or at the very least replace them. Again double check the licensing agreement before you do anything.

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when they see WHMCS many people get confused.

Perhaps if that simple thing confuses your staff, you need better staff? ;)

 

While I think branding free should be in total, I'm not bothered by it. Anyone with any experience in billing apps would know WHMCS at a glance in the billing back end, with or without the tag line.

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I think you're exaggerating how many people actually care about this. I'd be willing to bet there's only a handful seeing as this is the only a few threads covering the subject.

 

Honestly if i pay for an unbranded license i sort of expect the software i paid almost $400 for to be that. Unbranded. I'm paying a premium to remove the branding label from the software. This should be rewritten as a "End user Unbranded License".

 

I can see why some are upset since a team of people you hire, you want show this is MY company. My software i've paid for and own. Use it, enjoy it. Unbranded license is a confusing term the way it's referenced to purchase on the order page. It should be changed to what i suggested above to be politically correct and not seem sneaky.

 

On the other hand, i don't care who of my staff see it's WHMCS. I paid for the unbranded. It's my customers i'd prefer them not seeing "powered by". It just looks unprofessional to the end users, my staff, who cares if they see what system it's running. I think the link back is sneaky personally. The admin area should ONLY say "Powered by WHMCS Billing Systems" or some sort of notice. Not a link back to the web site to generate traffic for the curious eyes.

 

End result, i think change the wording and remove at minimum the link back and make it plain text showing what system is running. It's no different then native software running on a PC. Run any of them and you'll see who manufactured it

 

 

Perhaps if that simple thing confuses your staff, you need better staff? ;)

 

This my friend is so true, words cannot even begin to describe. lol. Hire smart, not stupid.

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when you say branding are you talking about the "Copyright © WHMCompleteSolution. All Rights Reserved." in the admin area? I ve bought the No branding license so i didnt saw which is different. on the frontend i dont see any pub of anything but in admin i see that copyright. Is that what you re talking about?

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