minadreapta Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 with a email already in database it brings up the customers details this would be awesome 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siforek Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 Looking forward to this also, forgive me for asking, but i quite simply cant be bothered to read through everything again if you've already written it lol,How much will this module be for people previously purchased from whmcsdev.com i think it is? And how much will this module be for new customers? Also does it have any features for instance if new chat comes in with a email already in database it brings up the customers details or if there logged in maybe? This is already in place As for price, I don't have it set yet. Although I'm open for suggestions on what you feel is a fair price I'll post a feature list for v1.0 later today and you can go off of that. I did say and still will be giving those customers of whmcsdev.com a discount. At this point I'm thinking 50% off. Keep in mind that I didn't make a single cent, and I'm just doing this as good faith because I don't think they should have to pay twice to get a good solution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyWHMCS Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Depends on the features you have really on price mate, if its as good or better than livezilla or close to it i can imagine you getting lots of customers for it, if its good maybe $40? And for whmcsdevs..com customers $20 And for me $1? Or are you hoping on getting more than $40 for it like? Just a surgestion Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siforek Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 Depends on the features you have really on price mate, if its as good or better than livezilla or close to it i can imagine you getting lots of customers for it, if its good maybe $40? And for whmcsdevs..com customers $20 And for me $1? Or are you hoping on getting more than $40 for it like? Just a surgestion Cheers Honestly I was thinking $50, that's considering all the features that only this chat will have/can have since it's integrated into WHMCS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyWHMCS Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Sounds good, Can we have a sneak peek of the new features your adding? Have you got msn i can chat to you on? Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siforek Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 Sounds good, Can we have a sneak peek of the new features your adding? Have you got msn i can chat to you on? Cheers siforek@hotmail.com or siforek@gmail.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyWHMCS Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Added as liam@gaming-solutions.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAJI26 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'm watching this... if the price is good I'll grab it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACscr Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I will be considering discounts for those who have purchased it from whmcsdev.com once it's released, but I want to make something completely clear: This module is 100% coded by me and no part of the first module has been used in this. Really it has no association with the first module except it's a live chat module. I actually think a fair price would be $50 a year or $5 a month. I think its best that you dont do a one time cost because you need to support your clients and also have that money to continually flow in, which will be some added motivation to continue to support/improve it. I think those are more than fair prices. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siforek Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 I actually think a fair price would be $50 a year or $5 a month. I think its best that you dont do a one time cost because you need to support your clients and also have that money to continually flow in, which will be some added motivation to continue to support/improve it. I think those are more than fair prices. Thanks for the feedback. I think something like that would work out well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACscr Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I just spoke with siforek on his live chat app and it worked out quite well. Spoke with him about some ideas and he actually already had many of them in the works or on his roadmap. Plus a few others that i hadnt though of. Anyway, i think its going to be a very successful app. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyWHMCS Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Talking to him on msn now, am i must 100% agree MACscr 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyWHMCS Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Just tried it out and it looks very professional and neat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siforek Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 Now that I've got most of the functionality for version 1.0 it's now time to get a nice looking default design for the admin console and client side chat. Although I'm completely capable, my time is best spent on development and I know there's a few of you that are far better designers than I. So I'm looking for someone to help me out here. My requirements are as follows: Design(s) as PSD(s) (will slice/code it myself) Minimal use of images Must fit well with V4 admin template Simple, Professional, etc. In return the designer will receive a free lifetime license and be credited for their work. If interested please email examples of your work to tj[at]tjphippen.com and I'll get you the current content. For a good designer this shouldn't take more than an hour or two, but it must be done by Friday otherwise I'll just do it myself. I want to make it completely clear that smarty templates are being used, so this is only for the default template and everyone is welcome to customize it to fit their site's design. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyWHMCS Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Contacted on msn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minadreapta Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 about the pricing: i was thinking of something like between $20 and $40 one time and $10 per year for updates/support. a monthly fee would be too much since there are a lot of such scripts for free out there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbenoit Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I don't agree with that. I think the pricing MACscr suggested is quite reasonable. It all depends on what you want for your business. We're willing to pay for licenses if the script meets our needs. We even pay monthly, though it costs more in the end, to support the developers (we pay monthly for all of our WHMCS licenses for this very reason - gives the developer recurring income). We use SupportSuite from Kayako today (though we want to move away from it). We tried Livezilla but didn't like the resources the client used and were not comfortable using Freeware for live chat used to support our clients. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 If you look through the history of paid mods here, only the sensibly priced ones have survived. If you price it too low then the developer will lose interest and disappear. MACscrs suggestion sounds like the best so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minadreapta Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 so, does that mean that even if you develop a crappy mod in a couple of days and price it $99 you can survive? WHMCS team worked for 3-4 years or more to get this far and they sell it for $250 (owned license). this sounds awkward: i got a new Ferrari for $100,000 and then i pay $50,000 for an Vauxhall umbrella because it matches the Ferrari upholstery. man, i'll start developing some WHMCS mods, i'll get rich in no time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 No. If it's no good then nobody will buy it. $50 isn't much money at all if the mod streamlines certain areas of your business. For example you may need to ask a visitor for their domain name in Livezilla so you can lookup their account, but if this were to provide a clickable link to go straight to their account information it's saved you some time. If you think you can do a better job, maybe you should start making your own mods, sell them at $20 a piece and see how long you last. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herpherp Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I agree with the yearly pricing structure that most have suggested, If the code is not encrypted and doesn't require a callback to licensing server. As it would be a waste of money, time, and resources if siforek got hit by a bus or got 25 to life next week:shock: and could no longer provide updates if it is encoded.(not wishing anything on you but stuff happens) I understand that you stated there would be two different prices for encoded and unencoded, but if it is a yearly fee that you decide to go with I would say that the fee is for updates/continued support, so you can continue to use your current setup for example chat version 1.0 on whmcs 4.1 but if a year from now your chat is version 4.0 and whmcs is 6.0 you would need to update but could still use 1.0 on 4.0 without expiring... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWH1 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Regarding... - Linux and Windows Chat App (Windows but being flexible you would offer Linux) Any plans for a Mac Chat App or maybe a Firefox plugin to allow Mac users to use this as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siforek Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 Thanks everyone for your comments about the pricing. I think we're all on the same page here While my modules have provided some nice passive income, they've never paid my bills and I'm ok with that. All I'm looking to do is cover my time, help the community, and do something I love. I think we all know that this type of module requires much more work long term (updates/support) and this one is more and more becoming my "baby" and has huge plans for the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siforek Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 I ended up designing the admin console myself and wanted to let you all know I'll have some screen shots today and am on track to release it tomorrow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeforce Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Is there a demo site i can see it in action? Thank you, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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