sparky Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) @appolo1: Bear answered this already (and quite well as well) it works on either http or https as well @Bear: Thanks for answering that - You beat me to it. I hope that the redirect is of use to someone. I get HV's site. old files still there. He has a maintenance page up and the client portal theme on WHMCS Edited November 18, 2008 by sparky 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssecor39 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Hi Sparkey, We just checked from another server from a different isp and we are seeing what you are. Somehow Host Veteran has redirected their site to ours, not sure how. Will monitor the activity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prointergrator Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Dear All, I need some help with .htaccess stuff. I have had a search of this forum and carnt seam to find a .htaccess code that works for me. I want to hide both images, css, and tpl files but i still want my server to be able to find them i just want to stop people from being able to accsess the files directly for example http://www.domain.com/whmcs/templates/default/login.tpl http://www.domain.com/whmcs/templates/default/images/logo.gif NOTE: Im running a Apache Server on win32 platform. Warmest Regards:) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssecor39 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hello to all, www.nomorerip.com is live... Please join us in kicking off our new website and help make the internet a safer place and protect our hard work! Feel free to comment and leave feedback. We have created catigories for each topic and welcome your input. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thanks Bear & Sparky! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsonwebhosting Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Well it looks like Host Vetern is still offline (good) and the other place (Host Brella) now has a generic looking template with "Consetetur sadi pscing elitr" text and no links on the site working. Why would someone put a site to the public with no links and no content working? Isn't that what folder protection and offline development is for? Starting a hosting company is NOT just a matter of a nice design, and a STOLEN design is even worse! In the design world, we all "sample" parts, but to do a RIP is something else! We've used copyscape way too many times to find stolen content from our site. Things like "operating since 1994, before most hosting companies were in busienss" was for some reason showing up on 7 other sites along with other content directly lifted from our site. It wasn't design aspects (other than our logos being modified on some sites, and the same name), but text lifting is a violation also. DMCA is the way to go, MOST people will comply with that quickly, and if not, the hosting company (or data center) facilitating the piracy will take the site down. Good luck to you! Hopefully the repeated incidents are few and far between! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssecor39 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hi handsonwebhosting, Thank you very much for your valued feedback and comments. You are dead on when it comes to starting a Hosting Company. Not only does it take a good design, but it also takes unique "original" content to really facilitate traffic and build a following. It is a shame that companies like HV and HB get their traffic by ripping others hard work only to "call it their own". We trust that they are now working on legitimizing their operations and joining the ranks of honest and hard working business owners like ourselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 What happens if the person who stole your site is living/hosting it in another country? Is the DMCA a United States law only? What if I am in Canada, and some guy in France or even the United States copies my site? same question for US residents filing against non-US violators. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keliix06 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 DMCA is a US law. If the site isn't hosted in the US don't expect sending a notice will get anything done. That's why piratebay.org laughs at DMCA removal requests. And I forgot to quote, or who said it, but there is no duplicate content penalty. Google knows who published content first and their version is what gets indexed. Duplicate content it much less likely to get indexed, but it will not affect the original content in any way. If it did all you would have to do is create a clone of wikipedia to get it out of all Google listings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssecor39 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hi Apollo1, The following is a direct quote from this site: http://depts.washington.edu/uwcopy/Copyright_Law/International_Copyright_Law/ No international copyright law exists that will protect a work in every country of the world. However, several key international treaties that the US has signed protects works from and within member nations. One can hope that as the awareness gets out there regarding this, more countries will jump on the bandwagon and start cracking down on this activity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssecor39 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hi Sparky, May I add your input to my new site No More Rip? I wanted to add it to Design Techniques so that business owners will learn stratagies to protect their work. Just in case someone has missed or doesn't know about the .htaccess to protect files.This is what I use in the public_html directory Protects configuration.php, all .txt (lang files) and all .tpl as well as turning off directory browsing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hi Sparky, May I add your input to my new site No More Rip? I wanted to add it to Design Techniques so that business owners will learn stratagies to protect their work. No Problem Scott just change the domain name from tshosting.com.au to something like yourdamain.com Also I hope everybody that is now using it has changed the domain to their own domain name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsonwebhosting Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Two other laws that can be used with regards to the copyrights are the Berne Convention and the UCC (universal copyright convention). We had used the Berne Convention on a number of sites prior to the DMCA being developed. It has helped with not only published works but also with web sites. According to the Berne Convention, once somethign is put to paper the work becomes an intellectual copyright. So a drawing or lyrics to a song, or content of a webpage, are automatically granted intellectual copyright once you write it and put a date on it. The old copyright system was the "poor man" copyright in which people would write material, and then send themeslves content inside an envelope that would not be opened until needed in court. The postmark served as the copyright date. Now that DMCA is in full swing in the states it does take care of much of the copyright issues for the web, but for those living outside of the US, and within countries that adhere to the Berne Convention, you may be able to use that treaty in your legal battles. Some countries thought the Berne treaty was too strict and later signed the UCC, so there's two to help out our world brothers I am not a lawyer, but I have spent a TON of time reading on copyrights form when I first started marking and design and then later web design & internet ecommerce. At all times legal advise should be saught through legal departments. The above information is from my own personal experiences dealing with international parties and web sites. EDIT: there's also a European Version of the DMCA, but I don't remember the name off hand. Edited November 20, 2008 by handsonwebhosting Note about Europe's DMCA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanClinton Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2195347.stm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssecor39 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hi DeanClinton, An excellent article! I couldn't agree more with the writer that we need to as a collective body tie the online world to the real world when it comes to copyrighting works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striddy Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Looks like Host Veteran is not even displaying their "we are building a new site" page... Puzzling.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 When I go to HV, I get: We are in the process of upgrading our website... If you are a current customer and require support please use our temporary client area by clicking on the link below. Thank You! Click Here For Support 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssecor39 Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 Its been a few weeks now and things have died down and we are proud to say that we have curb at least a few attempts of stealing of our work. Thanks for all your support and efforts to weigh in on this growing problem. We sure have brought light to this subject. We are getting a redirect from www.hostveteran.com every time we access it from our isp which is Road Runner in NY USA. It lands on our site when going to HV. It does go to the updating our website when we access their site from another isp. In any case, we have definately put a damper on the activity! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbilling@dncs.com Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 One thought. Did you purchase a template? Most likely not however if you did you can also send them in on the attack as many of them (Monster Template for example) have strict rules about publishing on other sites. Possibly they can go to bat for you as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Hi I would suggest using a site like http://www.hcidata.info/host2ip.cgi to find the IP address of these and then use this site to trace the server/datacentre of these sites IP addresses and then sent the DMCA direct to the datacentre, as it is them that can remove the IP from the server, thereofre closing the sites down for good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrat Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 @ easyhost Your contribution is much appreciated and thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arhost Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Or you could use the following site to lookup domains/ip whois etc... http://www.whois.sc/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Here's a couple that I use http://www.intodns.com/ http://network-tools.com/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Trish Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Google's "Alerts" tool is free. You can monitor for any word or phrase. Just log into your Gmail account then click "My Account" then click "More..." at the bottom of the page. (shortcut: www.google.com/alerts) trish : - ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Trish Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Another cool free tool is www.tineye.com i use this tool to locate websites that have hijacked images from my own sites. trish : - ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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