FoxDenHosting Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 When is there going to be another update to WHMCS? I would love to purchase and the admin panel is simply stunning but the client order forms compared to HostBill seems lacking. But again, the admin panel is much much better than HostBill! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DavidBee Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 When its released. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Infopro Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 When is there going to be another update to WHMCS? I would love to purchase and the admin panel is simply stunning but the client order forms compared to HostBill seems lacking. But again, the admin panel is much much better than HostBill! What's lacking, exactly? Can you be a bit more descriptive for us? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 malfunction Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 What's lacking, exactly? Can you be a bit more descriptive for us? Maybe you haven't visited the internets recently, but the WHMCS order forms look like they are from the 1990s. Supposedly some new ones are in development, but there's apparently little progress towards a completion date and they are not in 5.3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DavidBee Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Maybe you haven't visited the internets recently, but the WHMCS order forms look like they are from the 1990s. Supposedly some new ones are in development, but there's apparently little progress towards a completion date and they are not in 5.3. Why don't you pay to have some unique ones developed for yourself and your company? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Infopro Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Maybe you haven't visited the internets recently, but the WHMCS order forms look like they are from the 1990s. Supposedly some new ones are in development, but there's apparently little progress towards a completion date and they are not in 5.3. I've been visiting the internets since the 1990s, these order forms don't look like the 90's to me. Still hoping for a more descriptive post here by you, TBH. They don't look like host bill, is not useful. How do you know about the progress? What do you know about the progress? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DavidBee Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) I've been visiting the internets since the 1990s, these order forms don't look like the 90's to me. Still hoping for a more descriptive post here by you, TBH. They don't look like host bill, is not useful. I don't think anyone has a clue about what they want. I think what they are all meaning is "fancy graphics please". I spoke with Chris about this and it seems you are doing alot more than just coming up with a few new layouts. If only users knew the true value of the work being carried out I think they would be more thankful. I am also against graphical order forms 100% like hostbill, I want a fast loading easy to use form where no one will get distracted. Wait! WHMCS already has that:) Edited July 29, 2013 by DavidBee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 easyhosting Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am also against graphical order forms 100% like hostbill, I want a fast loading easy to use form where no one will get distracted. Wait! WHMCS already has that:) +1 on that. Order forms should be fast and easy for the end user to use with being distracted without fancy graphic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zomex Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am also against graphical order forms 100% like hostbill, I want a fast loading easy to use form where no one will get distracted. Wait! WHMCS already has that:) I agree with that, so much so that I decided to use web20cart (perhaps the most simple cart after boxes) as a base for my re-integration. HostBill's carts look very cool and are well developed but I think they're over complex. I think a happy medium between WHMCS & HosBill would be good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 malfunction Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 The Hostbill order forms are awesome, especially for cloud providers, but you guys are overly focused on graphics==slow. That may or may not be the case but what is true is that the WMCS forms look ancient; they should have been updated along with the rest of client facing side when it switched to use Bootstrap a couple years back. Bootstrap provides all the elements you need to make order forms that look like they belong in a modern web application, without including any graphic elements or being slow - that would be a great start to a slick presentation in our forms without the Hostbill party tricks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 basic Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I should correct you ... it is not internets, the term is interwebs ) Seriously, can't see anything that would be nicer with Hostbill as compared to WHMCS. Besides, even if so, the beauty of the order page will unlikely get you more customers. John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 FoxDenHosting Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 I should correct you ... it is not internets, the term is interwebs ) Seriously, can't see anything that would be nicer with Hostbill as compared to WHMCS. Besides, even if so, the beauty of the order page will unlikely get you more customers. John That may be true but looks and appearances play a huge part on customer base. If your site and order pages look very high end than a customer may be more inclined to go with your hosting solution. Take Apple for instance. If Apple did not package there products so neatly and uniquely and make everything so seamless I am sure not as many people would purchase there products. There is a certain comfort customers get from a nice and unique looking order page and website. Makes it not look cheap and "out-of-the-box" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 malfunction Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 OP, it seems like nobody else here thinks UX is important (newsflash: it is), but I think the answer to your question is just that there are some new forms in the works with improved appearance and functionality. No timeline has been identified, other than they won't be in the 5.3 release, but hopefully the next few months will see them completed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DavidBee Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 No one thinks UX is not important, I just think that comparing it all to hostbill is a bad idea. PS this title should be "Order Form Discussion" is instead of "next update" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 R-n-R Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 One of the biggest areas of improvement is getting WHMCS to a more single page checkout. (The current single page checkout I do not like at all). Another area is the ability to provide additional information about add on products. I want the ability to give new (and existing) clients the benefit of each Addon offered. As one client told me recently, "you need to provide why I need the addons you have". I do have a page on my web site that states the advantages of various addons, but putting a tool tip, toggle or some other scheme to provide benefits for addons is vital during the checkout process. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 FoxDenHosting Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 Everyone may say they think UX is not important and that is fine, that is everyones opinion. I for one think UX is important and should be looked at to be a little more interesting looking instead of having a cookie cutter look to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DavidBee Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Don't you think a brands order forms should also be unique? Stand our from the crowd. Think of how many customers WHMCS and how many other hosts will use the stock forms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HardSoftCode Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 With WHMCS you can do almost everything you can think of and an order form is not that hard to do If you look at this screenshot you will see that i changed the cart to something else Products list with pagination and categories menu http://im35.gulfup.com/pvlKB.png View cart with categories menu http://im35.gulfup.com/T7Pue.png Jquery,ajax checkout page similar to OpenCart http://im35.gulfup.com/N3Otd.png The product page similar to themeforest (not yet finished still working on this) http://im35.gulfup.com/yYv6N.png And here is the module that control all this http://im35.gulfup.com/OXVgi.png My point here is don't depend on WHMCS to do all the work. They have provided for us a modules,hook ,API system with all that you can do anything come on your mind :idea: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Alex - Arvixe Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 With WHMCS you can do almost everything you can think of and an order form is not that hard to do If you look at this screenshot you will see that i changed the cart to something else Products list with pagination and categories menu http://im35.gulfup.com/pvlKB.png View cart with categories menu http://im35.gulfup.com/T7Pue.png Jquery,ajax checkout page similar to OpenCart http://im35.gulfup.com/N3Otd.png The product page similar to themeforest (not yet finished still working on this) http://im35.gulfup.com/yYv6N.png And here is the module that control all this http://im35.gulfup.com/OXVgi.png My point here is don't depend on WHMCS to do all the work. They have provided for us a modules,hook ,API system with all that you can do anything come on your mind :idea: Wow you've done a lot there You up for hire? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Infopro Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 ... My point here is don't depend on WHMCS to do all the work. They have provided for us a modules,hook ,API system with all that you can do anything come on your mind :idea: Well played sir, great post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 malfunction Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 OK, cool, so I can just pay a developer thousands to bring the cart up to the standard of the "Jquery,ajax checkout page similar to OpenCart" shown in the screen shot. Fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DavidBee Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Well if that's what you want then that's what you should paid for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HardSoftCode Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Wow you've done a lot there You up for hire? Thank you, I don't think i will sell this but i have a plans to do a module + template to convert WHMCS to OpenCart for none hosting user Well played sir, great post. Thank you, WHMCS Is not just a Web Host Manager Complete Solution OK, cool, so I can just pay a developer thousands to bring the cart up to the standard of the "Jquery,ajax checkout page similar to OpenCart" shown in the screen shot. Fair enough. Let me do some calculation Hostbill Owned Unbranded = $600 USD 50 tickets = $999 USD :cry: All OrderPages = $999 USD : 2 clientarea themes = $299 USD :mad: Total = $2897 USD :D You will pay thousands for a Hostbill license For just a skin you will pay $2897 USD do you know that Hostbill don't have 40% of WHMCS features If you find a good developer to do a full template integration you will pay a $1000 or $1500 but not pay $2897 Well if that's what you want then that's what you should paid for. +1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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