dmc_ss Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Why would you use ID Protection if you can opt-out of the whois database? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Why would you use ID Protection if you can opt-out of the whois database? You can opt-out of WHOIS? Since when? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc_ss Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well, you certainly can for .uk domains. At least the data is not shown on a whois lookup. Perhaps I'm missing something "extra" with ID Protection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gears Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Never heard of "opting-out" of the whois database. Not sure about the .uk domain either. But generally ID protection is useful when you don't want to have personal information publicly available. Some clients want this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc_ss Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 From the WHOIS Service FAQ on the http://www.nic.uk registry: Can I choose not to have my address details published? Yes. we appreciate that some individuals are concerned about having their personal address published on the WHOIS and therefore allow individuals the opportunity to opt-out of having their address details displayed. WHOIS Opt-Out is an option provided on all .uk domain names and hides personal data. I guess the opt-out is only a UK thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gears Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Thanks for the information. Now, ID protection seems like exploitation to me really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scurrell Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 WHOIS Opt-Out is an option provided on all .uk domain names and hides personal data. I guess the opt-out is only a UK thing. Only for individuals. Companies, sole traders etc. cannot opt out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickendippers Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Opt-Out is only available on .uk domains. For all the other domains it's very useful. Since implementing it my customers have stopped receiving letters from Domain Registry of America, encouraging them to pay £70 to transfer domains away from us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Yes. opt out is only available to .uk and if your are an individual. If you are a company etc. then you have to pay for ID protection or similar service to opt out. I offer ID protection as a free option to my clients as I believe that with ID theft a major concern i would rather let my customers have this piece of mind without charging them for this service when its purpose is to stop ID fraudsters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 A problem with ID Protection is that spam assassin, if configured to use bl.open-whois.org, will add spam score to your emails if the domain of the from address is protected. We've had customers with ID protection who couldn't get email through to some destinations as a result. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I never use spam assassin and advise my clients not to use this either as spam assassin in my eyes is a con. I enabled spam assassin on one of my domains because i was getting a few (2 doz) spam emails a day and was advised to enable this, as soon as i enabled this the amount of spam i received went up to a min. of 3000 spam emails a day, due to this i was forced to cancel this domain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickendippers Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I'm confused as to how spam assassin could increase the amount of spam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 this also confused me and all cPanel and my root host could tell me to do was to disable this as they could not give me a reason, but by this time the damage is done as the spammers have your email address. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
othellotech Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 my root host could tell me to do was ... Whoever they are, they were pulling your chain - enabling spamassassin a *serverside filter method* does not expose your email address to spammers and cannot increase the amount of spam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 this is what happened as soon as i enabled spamassassin my spam increased dramatically and i even contacted cpanel direct for a solution and reason and they could not figure out why this happened and told ne to disable this, but by this time the spammers had my email detauils, so i was left with no other option but to close down the effected email address. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickendippers Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I think the increase in spam was caused by something else that may have happened at the same time. Just because the two events coincided does not prove causation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 nothing else happened at the time the spam WAS increased by enabling spam assassin, which logs proved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I brought up the whole spam assassin thing - only because of our experience with ID Protected domains getting higher spam scores due to the bl.open-whois.org blacklist. I didn't reply to the idea that spam assassin could increase spam levels, because I knew it would take this thread further off topic. However, like other posters have said, there is just no way spam assassin could be the cause of increased spam. All it does is process incoming messages, adds headers with its results, and optionally adds a subject modifier. It was not the reason for your increased spam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc_ss Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Ok, so what companies do people use for ID Protection? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickendippers Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Your registrar. DirectI provide it FOC on all domains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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