DerekFL Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Anyone use, or is interested in the use, of chargebackprotection.org? They offer a free service to report fraudulent chargebacks and to scan potential customers to determine if they are currently listed in the database. The decision to use this database is obviously a personal one as the potential exists that someone may have their credit card information stolen and may wrongly end up in the database as a result. On the other hand it can assist with legitimate chargebacks as well. I have developed a chargebackprotection.org fraud module for WHMCS, but am currently waiting for Matt to approve its release as some of it relies on copyrighted WHMCS files. Would anyone be interested in this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxkylexx Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 It looks like a nice site. However, will this module work with their free service? It mentions "API access to the database" only for the paid service. Kyle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACscr Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 looks pretty shady to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekFL Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share Posted September 10, 2006 I have subscribed to their free service and it works with it so far. And once again I am not endorsing the product (chargebackprotection.org), only providing a solution for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACscr Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 So will this module work in combination with other fraud modules such as maxmind? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekFL Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share Posted September 10, 2006 At the moment it piggy-backs on the Maxmind module. Maxmind checks its database first, and then chargebackprotection.org's database is checked. The option is included to turn off the chargebackprotection.org protection as well. However I JUST discovered that I can make it a completely seperate module (calling it as a seperate module may be a whole other issue, but I'll play with it a bit more tomorrow.) Additionally I recently noticed several accounts being created in WHMCS, but without any type of product attached to them. I changed WHMCS to make the notes in the admin notes portion of the customer's account indicating exactly why the product sign-up failed, such as a Maxmind score that's too high, country mismatch, free e-mail address and so on. Also included a field where the on-scene error message includes an e-mail address (sales) to contact for additional assistance in setting up the account when the purchase is declined for fraud. Am thinking about adding an e-mail notification as well. Here are some screen shots of what I've done so far (note some information has been removed to protect user's privacy.): This is the client view screen from the admin panel: This is where the options are configured for the module. This is an example of an order that is declined because a match has been made. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACscr Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Looks awesome so far. I do think that this should definately be a seperate module though. I know its extra work, but its the right way to do it. I like the idea of email notifications as well, just like you suggested, and I really like the admin messages log additions too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekFL Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share Posted September 10, 2006 Yeah I like I said I JUST found out that I could make it as a seperate module, but am not sure exactly how the modules are called during the checkout. Will work on it some more tomorrow and see if I can make it a 100% seperate module. I appreciate the compliments though! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host4cheap Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Is the site sold or something because i am getting the AD PAge there ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Haha. Looks like that service lasted long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Yea the site is still gone... But your admin notes integration is great. I do use maxmind so it would be helpful for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebyp2 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 chargebackprotection has been around for a very long time, as is as reputable as maxmind. It would appear the domain name expired yesterday, and somebody forgot to renew it.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekFL Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share Posted September 10, 2006 Doh that would figure. Spend all that time working on a mod and then they forget to renew their domain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebyp2 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 it does point out one of my real annoyances with enom, they whack that advert page up damn quick after a domain expires! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekFL Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share Posted September 10, 2006 Well I'll work at porting them to two seperate modules, just in case chargebackprotection.org decides to renew their domain, and will make some additional modifications to the Maxmind module. Please note, in advance, that you'll need Zend in order to run the module as they will have to be encrypted since they contain copyrighted material. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACscr Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 ah come on, at least use the same encoder as whmcs. Kind of stinky to have to use ioncube for whmcs and zend for this one module. Just my opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebyp2 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 one would suggest that since he is being so kind as to write a free module / hack for whmcs and then contribute that module gratis he can encode it how he likes. More to the point, its not too much of a hasle to install zend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACscr Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Um, i dont think my suggestion of comment was taking away anything from his effort/kindness to make the module. I have been in communication with Derek behind the scenes as well. So dont try to paint be as a bad guy because of my logical suggestion. Has absolutely nothing to do with the "hassle" of installing zend. I have nothing but respect for Derek 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebyp2 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 i wasn't trying to paint you as anything sunshine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekFL Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 There's actually a very good reason that I plan to use Zend... Because that's what I have on hand. If someone wants to purchase a version of Ion Cube for me, then I'll use it. I'm just about finished with my Maxmind improvement; however I'll be opening a new thread to discuss it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxacp Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 There's actually a very good reason that I plan to use Zend... Because that's what I have on hand. If someone wants to purchase a version of Ion Cube for me, then I'll use it. I'm just about finished with my Maxmind improvement; however I'll be opening a new thread to discuss it. Hopefuly you will place reference to where the new topic is is this topic so we can find it. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACscr Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 There's actually a very good reason that I plan to use Zend... Because that's what I have on hand. If someone wants to purchase a version of Ion Cube for me, then I'll use it. I'm just about finished with my Maxmind improvement; however I'll be opening a new thread to discuss it. Hopefuly you will place reference to where the new topic is is this topic so we can find it. Thanks or you could search for it, or look at all dereks posts and see his most recent one, or i could just give you the link. =P http://www.whmcs.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5035 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vectoral Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Ioncube does per .PHP encoding, you should open a donation for 4$ and we can donate and get it encoded properly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACscr Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 How much for a copy of ioncube encoder? I know zend is priced pretty high. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekFL Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 Ioncube runs at $199. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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