Vinc718 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Anyone test this yet? Is it working like it should? Flawlessly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggie Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Seems to work perfect on my end 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrprez Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Are you doing recurring transactions? Or do they have to log in and pay each month? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggie Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I am doing recurring. I will have to wait a little long to see that it works, but everything has ran smooth so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPH Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I am doing recurring. I will have to wait a little long to see that it works, but everything has ran smooth so far.We tested the module before release, and it was not suitable for recurring. Unless Matt has found a solution for the CVV. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggie Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Thanks for the heads up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHMCS CEO Matt Posted October 13, 2007 WHMCS CEO Share Posted October 13, 2007 We tested the module before release, and it was not suitable for recurring. Unless Matt has found a solution for the CVV. PayPal doesn't allow payments to be submitted without the CVV number and it is illegal to store the CVV number so there can be no solution. Matt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPH Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Thanks for the heads upYour welcome.Payflow is for recurring and they charge double the monthly price for the option 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggie Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Booooo.......well, guess the search continues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrprez Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Maybe if enough people complain to PP they might change it. I would certainly move from e-onlinedata to PPPro. They'd pick up a bunch more business if they would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPH Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Maybe if enough people complain to PP they might change it. I would certainly move from e-onlinedata to PPPro. They'd pick up a bunch more business if they would. They will recommend the solution they have available which is of course $60 vs $30 for US users. We were happy to get the pro as we already process payments for online sales in house sales for 2 companies. (note:PayPalPro allows you to process for up to 5 businesses with one account) It also allows us to accept the CC payments on our website. It is just not suitable for a subscription, if the user wants to pay by subscription, that is the purpose of the PP subscription PayPal doesn't allow payments to be submitted without the CVV number and it is illegal to store the CVV number so there can be no solution. Matt, thanks for clarifying the PP requirement for the CVV. I knew you had researched and found talk of some way around this, but had my doubts it could be done. I haven't had time to upgrade yet so I wasn't sure if the module had changed since testing. BTW thanks for adding it to WHMCS! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 What about use of Risk Controls? I found it noted: Configure this Risk Filter to determine how you would like to handle payments when the buyer does not enter a card security code or enters the wrong card security code. The card security code is a three- or four-digit number usually found on the signature panel of a card. This fraud prevention tool has various names. Visa calls it CVV2, MasterCard calls it CVC2, and American Express calls it CID. A valid card security code helps verify that your customer has a physical card with them when they place an order. Seems pretty straight forward, I have set mine to simple accept since I have no customers presenting a CVV other than at the initial order - am I wrong in thinking this will help? If it doesn't, is there a email address / ticket ID etc. we can all get behind to push for this function to be unlocked, I am really wanting to phase out my current provider. Update After changing that setting in my Profile's Risk Controls, I decided "Might as well test it" - and after 3 calls preventing me from getting it done right away, I just put in a test invoice, and told it to accept payment - worked without a hitch, no CVV on file - so here's to hoping it'll run on the cron tonight, as I have some billing scheduled to happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrprez Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 You may be on to something there! I await the results of your test... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPH Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 You may be on to something there! I await the results of your test...I explored this possibility whereas Matt found the info in the development forum whereas this could be turned of in the sandbox. Paypal development team didn't give a response for how this could be accomplished in "live" mode. I don't believe the option to accept CC payments in Pro is available without the authorization code. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrprez Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 It is in there now. Go to your Profiles and then to Risk Control. You can choose to accept payments without the CVV code. If you read the disclaimer fully, you will see in there where it says that accepting payments without the CVV code is one of the options. John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPH Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 It is in there now. Go to your Profiles and then to Risk Control. You can choose to accept payments without the CVV code. If you read the disclaimer fully, you will see in there where it says that accepting payments without the CVV code is one of the options. John Nope, not in mine unless I can't see! Risk Controls Current Setting Payments Declined or Reported to You (Past 7 Days - Click to view transactions) Country Monitor Accept 0 Maximum Amount Accept 0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrprez Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 You are missing something there. Here's what mine looks like: Country Monitor Accept 0 Maximum Amount Accept 0 PayPal Risk Model Accept 0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPH Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 You are missing something there. Here's what mine looks like: Country Monitor Accept 0 Maximum Amount Accept 0 PayPal Risk Model Accept 0 Yep looks like it, I will contact PP and see why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrprez Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 UpdateAfter changing that setting in my Profile's Risk Controls, I decided "Might as well test it" - and after 3 calls preventing me from getting it done right away, I just put in a test invoice, and told it to accept payment - worked without a hitch, no CVV on file - so here's to hoping it'll run on the cron tonight, as I have some billing scheduled to happen ChuckB - What's the good news? John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Some went last night - saw two go thru that used cards, but tonight's a big one, so we'll have to see! I'll post after the cron runs tonight. I know in the PP forums some folks noted they didn't have all the Risk options, but the one that seems to go with CVV is "Card Security Code Filter" - I wonder if it's something to do with the amount of time with PayPal? Well we'll see tonight, if it goes thru fine, I'll post a note either way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrprez Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Yep, PPH doesn't have that option where I do. It does say on the PP site that certain users will have this ability but not all. Might be time with PP or maybe even volume. Who knows! Anxiously awaiting tonights events. John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPH Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Some went last night - saw two go thru that used cards, but tonight's a big one, so we'll have to see! I'll post after the cron runs tonight. I know in the PP forums some folks noted they didn't have all the Risk options, but the one that seems to go with CVV is "Card Security Code Filter" - I wonder if it's something to do with the amount of time with PayPal? Well we'll see tonight, if it goes thru fine, I'll post a note either way. Hmm interesting concept. I have had a Paypal account since 199? early 199?'s which was switched to a business account on May 1, 2002 and Paypal pro for over 4 years. So seems that time would not affect this? I have a support ticket in and will post the result though. Maybe there is another setting somewhere that enables the additional menu item? The Payflow pro was created for the subscription payments though and support made that very clear when I asked about it originally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Hmm interesting concept. I have had a Paypal account since 199? early 199?'s which was switched to a business account on May 1, 2002 and Paypal pro for over 4 years. So seems that time would not affect this? I have a support ticket in and will post the result though. Maybe there is another setting somewhere that enables the additional menu item? The Payflow pro was created for the subscription payments though and support made that very clear when I asked about it originally. Well I have been around since the X.com days, and shortly after it became PayPal and Business accounts came around, I got bizified - so who knows, I am just hopeful that it will work, as it would simplify and speed up my billing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrprez Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 PP Pro for 4 years? I though that just came out in the last 18 months or so. Time sure flys... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPH Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 PP Pro for 4 years? I though that just came out in the last 18 months or so. Time sure flys...Not sure when it came out, but went back and looked. Processed my first card with pro in June 2005. ...so make that a little over 2 years ;(. Time hasn't flown as fast as suspected 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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