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Thanks for the suggestion, but since none of the staff speak Spanish (that I know of), we would not be able to monitor or participate in that section. In addition, there has been only one other request, so the demand is not terribly high, it would seem.

 

Can you tell us why you'd want a Spanish section?

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cito Junior Member

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Can you tell us why you'd want a Spanish section?

It is very difficult for me and many people reach an understanding in English.

 

With regard to moderation of the forum, some users may appoint from the community who speaks Spanish.

 

There are no many requests for a forum in Spanish, does not mean that it is not necessary.

It is known that for every user that requests it, behind a lot of people do not bother to ask but who need it.

 

Thanks

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Además del problema en cuanto al manejo del idioma español de parte del staff (y otros usuarios con muchos conocimientos acerca de whmcs) existe la cuestión de la duplicidad de post (aunque en otro idioma), esto es, si posteas en español acerca de algún error, habrá alguien que postee lo mismo pero en inglés, entonces la moderación/respuesta/comentarios se multiplica practicamente sin necesidad, aprende un poco el idioma inglés, usa las herramientas de traducción que hay actualmente si no entiendes correctamente los mensajes en idioma inglés.

 

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In addition to the problem in terms of knowledge of the Spanish language from the staff (and other users with much knowledge about whmcs) there is the issue of double post (although in another language), that is, if your post in Spanish about an error, someone will post the same thing in English, then the restraint / response / comments shall be multiplied almost without, learn a little English language, using translation tools that there are now if not correctly understand the messages in English language

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cito Junior Member

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Además del problema en cuanto al manejo del idioma español de parte del staff (y otros usuarios con muchos conocimientos acerca de whmcs) existe la cuestión de la duplicidad de post (aunque en otro idioma), esto es, si posteas en español acerca de algún error, habrá alguien que postee lo mismo pero en inglés, entonces la moderación/respuesta/comentarios se multiplica practicamente sin necesidad, aprende un poco el idioma inglés, usa las herramientas de traducción que hay actualmente si no entiendes correctamente los mensajes en idioma inglés.

 

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In addition to the problem in terms of knowledge of the Spanish language from the staff (and other users with much knowledge about whmcs) there is the issue of double post (although in another language), that is, if your post in Spanish about an error, someone will post the same thing in English, then the restraint / response / comments shall be multiplied almost without, learn a little English language, using translation tools that there are now if not correctly understand the messages in English language

(traducido con Google)

No veo problema en ello.

Los usuarios que participan en los foros en español, practicamente no utilizaran los foros en inglés por que no los entienden.

 

No veo duplicación de contenidos allí por que, por mas que se trate un mismo tema en ambos lares, la realidad es que los visitantes de uno no iran a leer lo mismo en el otro. No los entienden.

 

El tener un foro en español, o en determinado lenguaje, es algo que ocurre con casi todos los foros oficiales de CMS, y no generan problema alguno. Todo lo contrario, anima a mas usaurios a sumarse a la comunidad. Sabes la cantidad de personas que no participan aquí por que no entienden nada del inglés?

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And then someone requests dutch, then portugese, then german, and so on........

 

Where do you draw the line?

 

I understand where your coming from but you dont seem to have much trouble speaking english :)

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And then someone requests dutch, then portugese, then german, and so on........

 

Where do you draw the line?

 

I understand where your coming from but you dont seem to have much trouble speaking english :)

 

that there should be a limit?. What is the problem with open forums for an exclusive language if demand requires it?.

 

As I said before, many scripts have forums for each language, and that no problems.

 

My english is a automatic traslation of google: http://translate.google.com.ar

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charliez Senior Member

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Jortex et al.

 

Have a look for example at the MODx forums @ http://modxcms.com/forums/

 

As you can see there are a lot of community forums in different languages and

each of them has a community moderator which "controls" the forum even thought this is rarely done, they are there more to see what is going on in there.

 

There have been lots of developments in the communities which then get propagated to all the MODx community so there could be a French or a Dutch or a Russian collaboration which then is globalized and "launched" to the rest of the community.

 

Of course I understand that MODx is an open-source global project and WHMCS is not... so maybe that is why there is reluctance to acknowledge other languages and people out there...

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cyberneticos Senior Member

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Hola amigos, lo veo una buena idea. He registrado whmcs.es y estoy hablando con Matt para que nos dé su aprobación para utilizar este dominio para una comunidad hispanoparlante de usuarios de whmcs. Será algo parecido a lo que hicimos con directadmin-hispano.com

 

Tenemos amplia experiencia con WHMCS e incluso hemos participado proactivamente en muchos módulos creados para WHMCS (monitor ip, centovacast, etc...) También hemos ayudado en algunas porciones de traducción en castellano.

 

La verdad es que muchas empresas hispanas usan WHMCS, y muchas no tienen ni papa de Ingles.

 

Estoy a la espera de la aprobación de Matt. Esto es muy importante ya que ellos pueden ayudarnos al mismo tiempo que les ayudamos a ellos.

 

Saludos,

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that there should be a limit?. What is the problem with open forums for an exclusive language if demand requires it?.

 

As I said before, many scripts have forums for each language, and that no problems.

 

My english is a automatic traslation of google: http://translate.google.com.ar

 

Jortex et al.

 

Have a look for example at the MODx forums @ http://modxcms.com/forums/

 

As you can see there are a lot of community forums in different languages and

each of them has a community moderator which "controls" the forum even thought this is rarely done, they are there more to see what is going on in there.

 

There have been lots of developments in the communities which then get propagated to all the MODx community so there could be a French or a Dutch or a Russian collaboration which then is globalized and "launched" to the rest of the community.

 

Of course I understand that MODx is an open-source global project and WHMCS is not... so maybe that is why there is reluctance to acknowledge other languages and people out there...

 

Of course there should be a limit, there are between 5,000 - 6,000 different languages spoken around the world, should a forum be created for each of those?

 

And of course, what bear said, who would moderate them?

 

Personally (apart from the moderation issue) i dont see a problem with other languages such as spanish or german etc... but what if someone else requests arabic or similar?

 

Thats what i meant about a line has to be drawn somewhere or it gets out of control.

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cito Junior Member

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what you're proposing is to futurology. In principle, no script, nor the most popular free, has had the need to support all languages of the world. None needed as many options as to the open forum in a language it is a problem.

 

With all due respect, I do not think WHMCS exceed that.

 

And what of moderation, well, I think it is the least of the problems. For each forum will have many volunteer moderators, as happened in all communities.

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bear Senior Member

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I think it's more to the point of segregation, not of different peoples, but of thread and post content. Currently, there are sections for design help, tech help and so on. Creating a "Spanish only" section means one of two things:

  • One forum section for all various questions from Spanish users
  • A duplicate of what we have now for those users

In either case, that further segregates the Spanish users from the other users. Then if we add in any other language requests, that further isolates these users and topics from the main "flow" of conversation and assistance. In the end, I feel everyone suffers somewhat for not having all issues in one place, defined by category instead of language.

 

At any rate, it isn't my decision to make. I will support whatever decision is made, gladly. ;)

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Mi apoyo para esa idea de un foro en Castellano, que me parece excelente.

Aquellos que nos defendemos con el inglés y conocemos a WHMCS podemos ser una vía de comunicación entre los que sólo se pueden comunicar utilizando el idioma Castellano.

Seguramente no vamos a abandonar nuestra presencia aquí por la imprescindible y permanente necesidad de tomar mayor conocimiento en las fuentes, las cuales son este foro y sus moderadores con Matt a la cabeza.

 

This is a good idea, a Spanish forum, and I am with it.

All us which more or less can communicate with the English language and know something about WHMCS can be the way to transmit that knowledge to people who arrives here and only speak Spanish.

Shurely we'll not leave this forum because we will be always looking for new and better knowledge about WHMCS in the sources, which are here in this forum with its moderators and Matt on top of them.

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cyberneticos Senior Member

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Dear English speakers,

 

People are not asking for a spanish "official" forum. What we are talking about is just starting our own. I know this becuase I can comprehend what they are saying in this thread (in spanish). We want a forum where we can help each other out , in a language we understand. We don't need WHMCS' help or resources to make this happen, even though I have sent Matt an email asking for his thoughts and opinion on this, just becuase I don't like doing things behind people's backs.

 

In other words, I and other users that have posted (in English) are willing to make this happen. And this is indirect support that we would be giving WHMCS customers without WHMCS paying us for it.

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Frankly spoken, I do not understand why so many users here try to avoid to have a Spanish section. Have other language section is certainly a marketing decision! To reach out and broaden the user base is nothing bad at all. So nothing wrong with that. Try to make business in Florida ...w/h some Spanish knowleadge you are lost.

 

Asides from English is Spanish (350 Millions) among French (175 Million) and German (160 Million) most populare Languange worlwide! I won't mention Mandarin source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers

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