Reselling Domains

[madrid]

Hi I just wondered if there is a way to turn on Whois opt-out for all domains when users register or buy domains through my WHMCs.

 

I realise I'm a reseller and not a registrar as such, but if I'm trying to resell and add $1 on the costs of the domain and then a user does a whois they can see where I'm buying the domains from and can transfer to them directly.

 

This is not really fair when my registrar is offering reselling domains as a supplier, there should really be a way to let my clients believe the services are with me and not through my supplier?

 

Thanks for any help or advice.

[tripler]

I dont suggest trying to proxy registration without being incorporated (or equal status in whatever country), having a registered agent (other than yourself) and etc.

 

Check with you registrars reseller agreement .

 

Most registrars that set up a proxy service or use another proxy service are pretty whitelisted to the common eye.. like most of the prox registrations websites sell domains.

 

... but yes it can be done. You would need to create a custom module though.

 

 

3.12 Obligations of Third-Party Resellers. If Registrar enters into an agreement with a reseller of Registrar Services to provide Registrar Services ("Reseller"), such agreement must include at least the following provisions:

 

3.12.1 Reseller is prohibited from displaying the ICANN or ICANN-Accredited Registrar logo, or from otherwise representing itself as accredited by ICANN unless it has written permission from ICANN to do so.

 

3.12.2 Any registration agreement used by reseller shall include all registration agreement provisions and notices required by the ICANN Registrar Accreditation Agreement and any ICANN Consensus Policies, and shall identify the sponsoring registrar or provide a means for identifying the sponsoring registrar, such as a link to the InterNIC Whois lookup service.

 

3.12.3 Reseller shall identify the sponsoring registrar upon inquiry from the customer.

 

3.12.4 Reseller shall ensure that the identity and contact information provided by the customer of any privacy or proxy registration service offered or made available by reseller in connection with each registration will be deposited with Registrar or held in escrow or, alternatively, display a conspicuous notice to such customers at the time an election is made to utilize such privacy or proxy service that their data is not being escrowed. Where escrow is used, the escrow agreement will provide, at a minimum, that data will be released to registrar in the event reseller breaches the reseller agreement, and such breach is harmful to consumers or the public interest. In the event that ICANN makes available a program granting recognition to resellers that escrow privacy or proxy registration data as detailed above, and reseller meets any other criteria established by ICANN in accordance with its Bylaws, reseller shall be permitted to apply to ICANN for such recognition.

 

3.12.5 To the extent that Registrar is obligated to provide a link to an ICANN webpage, as detailed in subsection 3.15 below, Reseller also shall be under an obligation to provide such linkage.

 

3.12.6 If Registrar becomes aware that such a Reseller is in breach of any of the provisions of Section 3.12 of this Agreement, Registrar shall take reasonable steps to notify the Reseller that it is in breach of the reseller agreement and that Registrar has the right to terminate such agreement.

Edited March 6, 2012 by tripler

[zomex]

but if I'm trying to resell and add $1 on the costs of the domain and then a user does a whois they can see where I'm buying the domains from and can transfer to them directly.

 

I wouldn't worry too much about that as most customers wil not have a need to search their WHOIS or in many cases know what it is/means (unless you're target market are advanced users).

 

Jack

[othellotech]

I realise I'm a reseller and not a registrar as such, but if I'm trying to resell and add $1 on the costs of the domain and then a user does a whois they can see where I'm buying the domains from and can transfer to them directly.

They will always see this, as the requirement of a WHOIS server is to show the "real" registrar.

 

Don't like it - then dig deep, get a consultant on board who understands all the in-and-outs of ICANN application and registrar responsibilities, and go for it

[madrid]

Hi thanks for all the replies. I've since had the company incorporated and will keep looking for solutions. Thanks for all the help, everyone in WHMCS community seems very active and helpful.

[tusker]

Hi thanks for all the replies. I've since had the company incorporated and will keep looking for solutions. Thanks for all the help, everyone in WHMCS community seems very active and helpful.

Just my 2 cents: Unless you have a couple of thousands domains to manage, it is IMVHO very unlikely that you will benefit from becoming an ICANN accredited registrar.

 

On the other hand: rest assured, the vast majority of the customers does not even bother to look into the whois records, and if they do, they don't understand what it is all about. To me It never occurred that a customer has transferred a domain to my supplier.