HostOrca Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Well here's a site you do not want to get listed on:D http://shamelesshosts.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylove4life Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I would sue them if they added my site.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m8internet Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) Not sure about that, negative feedback can often be the best type of promotion! However, having now visited their website this seems to be the extreme end of the scale and some templates look identical Edited September 11, 2011 by m8internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HostOrca Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 I would sue them if they added my site.... The only way you would get listed on there is if you ripped someone's design, or used nulled scripts (nulled whmcs for instance). So, as a legitimate business, you would not get listed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDisk Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I would sue them if they added my site.... Hello, The only way to get listed there is by making a deliberate decision to steal from another company. This includes a deliberate ripped template or a nulled WHMCS. You really would have no grounds to sue as everythng there is factual and public knowledge. Frankly it would be like calling the police on a prostitute who diddnt give you proper change (I know its a bad analogy but you get the point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojahed Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 The only way you would get listed on there is if you ripped someone's design, or used nulled scripts (nulled whmcs for instance). So, as a legitimate business, you would not get listed the owner of this site http://shamelesshosts.com is silly although the idea of his site is good. Plus more: First, we are not a customer review site, ShamelessHosts.com only lists hosts who meet one of the following requirements. 1) Nulled Scripts - ShamelessHosts.com lists any web host who has been found using a nulled, pirated or cracked copy of any commercial script. This can include scripts such as Blesta, ClientExec or WHMCS. Nulling a script is a process which involves removing or defeating any License Verification (Call Home) function of an application. Why? – While many people say that nulling a script does not violate any laws in their specific country, nulling a script is still theft. Developers have worked hard to deliver a product and no one deserves to have their work stolen. Plain and simple, it demonstrates a lack of ethics. Can you trust a host without ethics? 2) * Hosts - ShamelessHosts.com lists any host who has been found to be running a *. This includes not delivering the product in a timely manor, bait and switch, fly-by-night, one time for life, or misusing customer information. Why? – This seems to be happening quite a lot in the industry. Web Hosting is a virtual business model that some are taking advantage of. Any host who accepts payment without intend to deliver the product deserves to be listed here. We will also list hosts who misuse customer information such as credit card numbers. 3) Stolen Designs or Content - ShamelessHosts.com will list any site who chooses to steal content from other websites. This includes the template, logo, branding, slogan or even content. Why? – This also comes down to ethics. If a company paid a developer to come up with that clever design, what gives other hosts the right to steal it? If you cannot afford a custom design, go to sites like ThemeForest and purchase an expensive template ($5.00-$25.00). 4) Refund Failure - ShamelessHosts has a special section for hosts that do not abide by their own refund policy. Many try to cover it up with the customer being abusive without giving proof. Why? – Again Ethics (notice the trend)… When you say that you are going to do something. DO IT. If for any reason a customer is not happy with your service and you have a refund policy, there is no reason to deny it. 5) Death Watch ShamelessHosts.com also has a spacial section for hosts that are near death or have been dealt a fatal blow. Why? – We don’t want people to purchase hosting only to find out all their content is gone in 3 days Currently ShamelessHosts.com Does Not post reviews in regards to customer service issues or downtime unless a host meets one of the above requirements. The reason for this is we cannot manually verify every complaint. Once a Host is listed on ShamelessHosts.com, there is little chance for removal. If your company was listed and would like a manual re-review of a posting, please contact us. We will only remove hosts if a mistake was made on our end. If you have corrected the reason for your listing, we will simply flag your post as “Resolved” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I think the site will make an interesting read for the hosting/WHMCS community... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylove4life Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 no it won't... and it looks to be made by a 5th grader.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 no it won't... Why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDisk Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 no it won't... and it looks to be made by a 5th grader.. What makes it look like a 5th grader made it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 The author appears to think he's terribly witty and "spit out your coffee funny", yet I saw no evidence of that. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 and even if you prove you have done nothing wrong and have legitimate sites and licences they will not remove you from their site quoting USA freedom of speech laws What a night, I got 3 different requests to remove listings from ShamelessHosts or companies will pursue legal action. Let me make my stand clear… ShamelessHosts.com and all content is protected under the United States of America Freedom of Speech Amendment, simply put, there are no legal grounds. 1 Removal Request was from the United States, in your case, please read above ^ 1 Request was from the United Kingdom, Let me remind you that ShamelessHosts is registered and hosted in the United States of America and thus I only have to follow United States Laws. I do not care if it violates any laws there. 1 Request was from India, please read about the guy from the UK above. Plain and Simple, if you do not want to appear on ShamelessHosts, PAY FOR YOUR LICENSES AND STOP RIPPING WEBSITE CONTENT. STOP BEING A BABY AND GROW UP. On a side note, if a court even bothered to listen to your case the defense “I Stole and got Caught” really does not work too well and then on their so called contact page NOTE : All contacts with ShamelessHosts.com may be made public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HostOrca Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 Actually 2 hosts have been removed. If it is a licensing error, or you where provided with an invalid license by your reseller, and you can prove it, he will remove the entry. Please Remove MeShort Answer : No Long Answer : When a site is featured on ShamelessHosts.com, it is typically for life. We submit EVERY entry manually and do not rely on public reviews to make our posts. If you have corrected your site and vow to not re-offend, please contact us to have your site reviewed once more. If we find your site to be in compliance, we will mark your thread as resolved however we will not remove the post. Rare Exceptions : While it is rare, we will make some exceptions in the following cases - 1) Your Provider issued you a nulled license – I have seen a few cases such as this, we do need proof including a receipt/invoice and the name of the provider. The host featured must also have had no prior knowledge of the incident. (The reseller may wind up on this site) 2) Issue with WHMCS’s billing system – Issues can happen to cause your license to appear invalid. If this is the case, please contact us. We will need a copy of the receipt to show it was paid prior to post NOTE : ALL COMMUNICATIONS TO SHAMELESSHOSTS.COM MAY BE MADE PUBLIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojahed Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Actually 2 hosts have been removed. If it is a licensing error, or you where provided with an invalid license by your reseller, and you can prove it, he will remove the entry. The author of that site seems to be just a kid want to have some fun and waste his time, Because i don't think that any adult will waste his time on doing what he do. He just need someone to teach him a lesson. :twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) if you also looks at http://whois.domaintools.com/shamelesshosts.com his details are hidden which no respected site would do. wonder what he is hiding. also as he keeps saying he is in the USA and will only follow USA laws. i just wonder if anyone has issued a DMCA against him for displaying copyrighted materail Edited September 13, 2011 by easyhosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Can't help but wonder who's behind it, but HostOrca started the thread and is one of only two hosts listed as "approved". Interesting, that. So, HostOrca, what's our involvement in that site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 it is also strange that on their home page now they have quoted all these posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDisk Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Can't help but wonder who's behind it, but HostOrca started the thread and is one of only two hosts listed as "approved". Interesting, that. So, HostOrca, what's our involvement in that site? I will assure you HostOrca has nothing to do with ShamelessHosts aside from being a reader. I am the one behind it it is also strange that on their home page now they have quoted all these posts Yes, I put it there to answer all of the questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Yes, I put it there to answer all of the questions. well you should answer the questions on here rather than place all these posts on your own childish site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 This is disappointing: 'Limit 5 per month 125x125 Sidebar Ads will appear on every page under "Approved Hosts"' Though you claim to check licensing, approved via payment is misleading, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDisk Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 well you should answer the questions on here rather than place all these posts on your own childish site. I was going to, rest assured. isnt Childish a bit insulting, not necessarily This is disappointing:'Limit 5 per month 125x125 Sidebar Ads will appear on every page under "Approved Hosts"' Though you claim to check licensing, approved via payment is misleading, no? Good point, I will change it to "Sponsored" or something to that point. Not all ads there are paid. Keep in mind, payment does not mean its approved at all, every one is manually checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 isnt Childish a bit insulting, hows that. you have a site which in effect lists sites that even if they correct errors you refuse to remove then and just list them resolved have you never made a mistake in your life and forgot to pay a bill. ie if a host forgets to pay their WHMCS invoice they become not authorised you will list them as using a nulled version which they are not, then just missed their invoice date, if they pay this you will just mark them as resolved and not remove them. this is CHILDISH and then you hid your identity on your site and in the whois details regardless to your explaination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDisk Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 hows that. you have a site which in effect lists sites that even if they correct errors you refuse to remove then and just list them resolved Errors are removed, however if the site once used Nulled Software and corrects it, they are marked as resolved. Just like if you committed a crime, you have a record to haunt you. have you never made a mistake in your life and forgot to pay a bill. ie if a host forgets to pay their WHMCS invoice they become not authorised you will list them as using a nulled version which they are not, then just missed their invoice date, if they pay this you will just mark them as resolved and not remove them. this is CHILDISH Again, when we check the hosts on Shameless, we do look at the admin area and do a licensedebug, If the license is "Suspended" they are not listed. There is a high rejection rate of those turned into shameless hosts because the license is suspended, not "Nulled". We have seen hosts use things like "0123456789", "BlaBlaBla" and "Pro" as their WHMCS license key for example. Make no mistake, we are not here to attack innocent businesses who make a mistake. and then you hid your identity on your site and in the whois details regardless to your explaination. What was not clear about my reasoning behind the private whois? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhosting Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 we do look at the admin area how would you look at a sites admin area unless you hack into their admin area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDisk Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 how would you look at a sites admin area unless you hack into their admin area No hacking involved, Ill assure you about that. If the license is "suspended" going to http://host.com/whmcs/admin should show a "Suspended" page (of course some change the admin url and in which case, we simply use the licensedebug). We do not ever attempt a login or to break security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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