Domain Registrar Warning

[Jacksun]

***Without Prejudice***

 

Hi, many of you have heard about the domain registrar who sends out info to businesses that looks exactly like an invoice, but isn't and the domain isn't registered with them. What happens more often than not is accounts payable pays the invoice look alike. This domain registrar then transfers the domain over to itself and puts a 120 day transfer hold on it. Basically a BIG * to get business.

 

This domain registrar has now and finally had its approval revoked as a direct registrar for the .CA domain names by the CIRA organization (Canadian Internet Registry Association).

 

So what do they do, they go to ENOM as a reseller so they can continue to sell .CA domain names, and continue the * they perpetrate.

 

What happened to me is I transferred a domain name for a client into my account on Jan 31,2011.This firm was transferring it's domain name portfolio over to ENOM on Feb 6, 2011. Well even though I had transferred the domain and it had completed, they transferred it out of my account and into theirs on Feb 3, 2011. How they got the EPP I'll never know, but I would say by reviewing outbound emails for EPP requests (copy EPP email to internal account, review). Unauthorized transfer, YES. Response from ENOM: go away and talk to the registrar, not our problem you must have provided the EPP. No, we didn't. Unauthorized transfers are ENOM's issue.

 

Avoid these guys at all costs, and if you get a fake invoice from them report it to ICAAN or CIRA or whoever else oversees the TLD or ccTLD involved.

 

As for ENOM, they work with these guys, and they don't care about unauthorized transfers. You decide.

 

Oh, the120 day hold is outside of policy, 60 days is the max. Next fight with ENOM, force allowing a transfer on day 61 per CIRA Policy.

 

http://droa.com

http://droc.ca

http://namejuice.com

 

BRANDON GRAY INTERNET SERVICES INC. (dba "NameJuice.com"), and DROC

 

http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=59307

 

Wayne

[othellotech]

Despite the fact that Domain Registry of America (and all their various other names they trade under) are scum, preying on the gullibility of registrants to not read the small-print on the fake * "invoice looking transfer requests" they post out ...

 

As for ENOM, they work with these guys, and they don't care about unauthorized transfers

It's not *unauthorised* if the registrant gives them the EPP code.

[Lawrence]

They are scum, but all you have to do to make their * nearly ineffective is set your eNom account to lock all domains automatically.

 

And if you really want to stop them in their tracks, urge clients to order whois privacy protection with you.

[Jacksun]

Despite the fact that Domain Registry of America (and all their various other names they trade under) are scum, preying on the gullibility of registrants to not read the small-print on the fake * "invoice looking transfer requests" they post out ...

 

Agreed, but most AP people don't have a clue about this stuff, and they are their target.

 

It's not *unauthorised* if the registrant gives them the EPP code.

 

Again, agreed but in my situation this was not the case.

[sohouk]

Enom do transfer domains without expressing anything to the current reseller. We have had these occur without us knowing.

 

In many ways, with costs and their lax policy on domain transfers its probably a good idea to compare other options first before settiling on Enom.

 

We would probaly go with Net Earth One, but they seem disinterested in our business.

[othellotech]

Enom do transfer domains without expressing anything to the current reseller

 

A transfer has nothing to do with the *reseller* - there is no such official contact associated with a domain

 

If the registrant/admin contact can unlock the domain and get the EPP code (which all registrars are *obliged* to provide them a means to) then the domain can be moved between registrars.