UNIXIELHOST Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Since I know inside admin, I notice that all files are coded as ionCube Loader, does that means we cannot edit them or what? How I can edit something I need to? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datawebcorp Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 What do you want to edit? In the templates folder are some .tpl and CSS files you can edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXIELHOST Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 I want to edit login.php and some other pages but it seem wont let me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datawebcorp Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 In each template folder there's a login.tpl file you can edit. Remember, there's one template that is used for the frontend the client uses, and there's another template for the order forms. They all have a login.tpl file you can edit. Realize, you can only change the html coding, not the actual PHP code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeori Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I share your pain. They simply need to open the source to their customers, perhaps following the model of Kayako (everything is open to owned license holders, except the licensing code). WHMCS also needs to embrace third-party developers better if they want to be taken seriously.. because right now, WHMCS looks to me like a kiddie application that hasn't yet grown up enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datawebcorp Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 WHMCS looks to me like a kiddie application that hasn't yet grown up enough. Is there a better hosting billing app. someplace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeori Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 If there is, I haven't yet found it. I was messing with Parallels Billing 6.0.3 last night - blatantly broken and much worse than WHMCS. They charge you for support, and don't pay enough attention to actual bugs (I encountered so many that I couldn't even test the application). The jury is out on ClientExec also; they look like another kiddie app with a limited API. As I can't see that any serious development has happened there, I'm not even going to mess with it. My perspective is that of a developer who knows how simple some of this stuff is to accomplish, hence the modicum of frustration. I emplore you guys (WHMCS) to double-down on your commitment to making money, by opening your code and bolstering the ability of third-party developers to do what they do. You never know who will start emailing you high quality code diffs that are ready to import straight into your RCS and roll out to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberhost Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 WHMCS is a "kiddie" app because it is closed source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXIELHOST Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 In each template folder there's a login.tpl file you can edit. Remember, there's one template that is used for the frontend the client uses, and there's another template for the order forms. They all have a login.tpl file you can edit. Realize, you can only change the html coding, not the actual PHP code. Not that, I am talking about the admin login, it blocks me and wont allow me to edit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeori Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 WHMCS is a "kiddie" app because it is closed source? It's a kiddie app because it lacks a lot of functionality that grown folks might use (API functions for every operation, properly implemented remote order forms, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmind Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 A kiddie app because you don't get encoded files?? Get a grip. So basically what you are saying is that the users of whmcs are are also "kiddie hosts" because they use it. Simple answer is rather than insulting a damn good product and it's users, if it doesn't do what you need it do, write your own... Rant over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeori Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 A kiddie app because you don't get encoded files?? Yep.. that's clearly what I said .......not. Get a grip. So basically what you are saying is that the users of whmcs are are also "kiddie hosts" because they use it. Many of them are, yes. This business lives and dies by software writing; those who don't write it are at the mercy of those who do. Simple answer is rather than insulting a damn good product and it's users, if it doesn't do what you need it do, write your own... I have, and I continue to (why else might I want a fully functional API?). Though I do have to make money whilst writing and perfecting my code, hence the usefulness of WHMCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmind Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I share your pain. They simply need to open the source to their customers, perhaps following the model of Kayako (everything is open to owned license holders, except the licensing code). WHMCS also needs to embrace third-party developers better if they want to be taken seriously.. because right now, WHMCS looks to me like a kiddie application that hasn't yet grown up enough. Yep.. that's clearly what I said .......not. Doesn't read any different to me tthe second time I read the post Many of them are, yes. This business lives and dies by software writing; those who don't write it are at the mercy of those who do. A sweeping generalisation don't you think? Yes there kiddie hosts out there but I doubt a lot them exist on this forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Yep.. that's clearly what I said .......not. because right now, WHMCS looks to me like a kiddie application that hasn't yet grown up enough. Looks from here like that's just what you'd said. If you need to write something for this that the current application doesn't allow for, by all means contact Matt. If you think that denigrating the methods and practices employed by him to present his product is the best way to gain support, that probably isn't going to happen. Demanding the script be open source and insulting it and the author would not be on my list of available methods of obtaining that end result. As already mentioned, if you are truly a coder write something of your own. Someone with experience should be able to write an add on to do what else they need in fairly short order, without having access to the source of WHMCS. I've seen several examples of addons built here. Where's some of yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeori Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Looks from here like that's just what you'd said. I said precisely what you quoted above. I can't tell if you're trying to troll, or just being dumb. If you need to write something for this that the current application doesn't allow for, by all means contact Matt. If you think that denigrating the methods and practices employed by him to present his product is the best way to gain support, that probably isn't going to happen. I don't believe I asked for any support. I'm sorry, but the facts don't agree with you. Demanding the script be open source I haven't demanded anything.. I said I "emplore" [sic - should've been an i] WHMCS to open their source. According to define: in google, the word means "To beg for, to entreat urgently or earnestly". I'm quite confident that scholars of the English language don't consider begging to be anything like demanding, in fact quite the opposite. While we're on the subject, I'd implore you to get the details right next time you have something to say to me. and insulting it and the author I don't know the author and I don't believe I said anything about him. Again, you're messing up the details. As already mentioned, if you are truly a coder write something of your own. Someone with experience should be able to write an add on to do what else they need in fairly short order, without having access to the source of WHMCS. I've seen several examples of addons built here. Where's some of yours? You missed the part where I mentioned that the API is incomplete. API only has some functions, only some files have source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I can't tell if you're trying to troll, or just being dumb.Neither, and you? I don't believe I asked for any support. You're asking for both the forum members and the author to support your request for opening the source of the application to fit your needs. I don't know the author and I don't believe I said anything about him. Stating that the "WHMCS looks to me like a kiddie application" is directly insulting the author, since he wrote it. As there is little to no chance that the application will be open sourced, and you're being argumentative and insulting instead of discussing this, we will close this topic. Good luck finding a replacement that suits you more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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