MarkB Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 TheHostHouse, I can't tell you the "how" but I can tell you the "why". People are jealous of successful sites. It's that simple. The more successful you get, the more hack attempts you'll be getting. IM'ers have always known this, but recently at an IM (Internet marketing) conference, one night at the conference hotel bar, there was a discussion about this very topic. The jealousy theory was confirmed by several IM gurus; one well-known guy had to hire someone in-house full time just to deal with the constant problem of losers who attempt to hack him because he is so successful. <<removed>> Mark 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 People are jealous of successful sites. It's that simple.The more successful you get, the more hack attempts you'll be getting. Jealousy? No, it's simply a matter of more return on the effort. Why hack a small host for 5 clients when for the same effort you can get 50 or 500? More profit, more bragging rights and so on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Jealousy? No, it's simply a matter of more return on the effort. Bear, With all due respect you have no experience in this area. Go visit the Warriors forum and you'll see a bazillion marketers backing up what I said: Jealousy is indeed the motivator for website sabotage. Yes what you are saying is indeed true, you do get more bang-for-your-hack by hacking larger websites. But that's not the real motivator for website sabotage. Also you mentioned bragging rights, and I agree that is a motivator, but more for large public websites, rather than for the small hosting site of the original poster. The well-known marketing gurus do a new "launch" about once per month, and weekly there are launches from other well-known significant marketers. Every one of those launches has attempts at sabotage, from folks who are angry/frustrated/pissed because they've been doing IM (internet marketing) for years with near zero success, then when they see people successful at it, making money hand over fist, they act out of pure jealousy. John Reese is famous for being the first guy to do a million dollars in one day, and since that time many other IMers (Frank Kern, Mike Filsaime, etc) have made multi millions during their one day launches. And many average marketers can do 5 or 6 figures in a week, during product launch. Trust me, this gets the losers all rawled up. Bear, the jealousy concept may seem a little difficult to grasp the first time you hear it, but it is well known in marketing circles. (Just as it is well known that for single product sales, long salescopy outpulls short copy. That one is always difficult for marketing newbies to grasp--they don't want to believe it because, hey, sites with long copy are not as sexy as a nice tight website) My suggestion is to visit the utlra busy marketing forums like the one I mentioned above, and you will see that jealousy is indeed the motivator for website sabotage. Mark Edited November 26, 2008 by MarkB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 But that's not the real motivator for website sabotage. We're not talking about sabotage, we're talking about compromising a site and stealing credit card info or hacking. Rather presumptuous of you to assume you know my experience, don't you think? this concept may seem a little difficult to grasp the first time you hear itUmm, right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summy Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Is there a definate answer on how this happend? Anything to do with whmcs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerHostBD Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Our WHMCS also got hacked. But the hacker didn't changed the cPanel password. He got direct access to the WHMCS. We are also looking for the cause of it in server logs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplybe Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I did find this the other day http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/32490/info I doubt this has anything to do with the hacks though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianoz Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) This has been discussed on WHT as well, and it's pretty clear to me that it was a security problem with the server and nothing to do with WHMCS. If a server doesn't take appropriate PHP security measures (suphp, or instead, at least, PHP lockdown via suhosin) any software can be hacked, and that's not at all a WHMCS issue. I don't think there's much to be concerned with, but if security is an issue there were some wise recommendations made in this thread that you should follow if you are concerned. I've followed the ideas there myself - in particular changing the admin directory and an extra level of htaccess security are a good start. Edited December 5, 2008 by brianoz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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