maniahost Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Hi All, Currently in the process of setting up a new dedicated server, but undecided as to which control panel to use. Its linux based, with a choice of cpanel, direct admin and webmin (which I don't much like the look of). Basically, customers need to login to add email accounts, thats about it (possibly also ftp accounts, but other than that nothing else). Which would you recommend? Whichever chosen will be used with whmcs to automatically setup the accounts and bill obviously, but am uncertain which to go with, as only got very basic needs as mentioned above. Any suggestions? Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I love cpanel! Before i've used, rack3/4/5 appliance, plesk, ispconfig, directadmin. Cpanel is the best ever. There are some minor bugs, but since the new version it's a lot better! And the most important thing is, my clients love it! It's so simple, and with the RVSKIN module it gets even better!!! Runs superb with Whmcs to! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railto Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 without a doubt i would use cpanel/whm, i currently use cpanel/whm for our servers, messed about with webmin, didnt like it at all, never used da tho, and to be honest ive no need to move away from cpanel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniahost Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Thanks for the replies. I normally use cpanel, but just wondering whether the others would be ok for simply managing email accounts / ftp accounts. Anyone else got any thoughts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberhost Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 We have DirectAdmin and WHM/cPanel servers. Both work equally well with WHMCS automation, and either control panel will work great for managing email/FTP accounts. DA is the faster, slimmer panel, whereas WHM has almost every bell and whistle to keep you out of shell. If you're comfortable working in shell now and then, DA is an awesome panel with all the features well-organized, and it is a fraction of the cost of WHM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isdoo Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Plesk - far better than cpanel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberhost Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Plesk - far better than cpanel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railto Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Plesk - far better than cpanel thank you so much for posting that, was in severe need of a good laugh after the day ive had, plesk is probably the worst cp, even worse than webmin, infact, the only thing i like about plesk over webmin is the fact that the UI is nicer on the eyes, and before you say i dont know what im talking about, the first server that i ever ran was ran on plesk, and it was the worst experience in my life, i would rather run everything in shell than use plesk again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generic Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 cpanel. when used with the feature manager, a custom skin and webmail, it is just about as custom and professional as you can get. ditch rvskin, its bloated and not needed. left them a long time ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I think rather than asking us, is to find out what market you want to apply yourself to. If you want to try out a new control panel, make sure that you can really apply that to your market. Also, I would also really test out another control panel before you truly offer it up on your website. That way you know how it works, and can figure out how to give support for people who will ask you questions about it. Nothing worse than not knowing how to give them help on something you're just as new with too. But, out of the ones you suggested, excluding cPanel.. From playing around with DirectAdmin, I really liked it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPH Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 thank you so much for posting that, was in severe need of a good laugh after the day ive had, plesk is probably the worst cp, even worse than webmin, infact, the only thing i like about plesk over webmin is the fact that the UI is nicer on the eyes, and before you say i dont know what im talking about, the first server that i ever ran was ran on plesk, and it was the worst experience in my life, i would rather run everything in shell than use plesk again Yes I saw their recomendation to offer Plesk in another Host's forum that use cpanel there too! So I got 2 laughs out of it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberhost Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Jordan makes a good point about trying before you buy, so: cPanel demo DirectAdmin demo Plesk demo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magga Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 thank you so much for posting that, was in severe need of a good laugh after the day ive had, plesk is probably the worst cp, even worse than webmin, infact, the only thing i like about plesk over webmin is the fact that the UI is nicer on the eyes, and before you say i dont know what im talking about, the first server that i ever ran was ran on plesk, and it was the worst experience in my life, i would rather run everything in shell than use plesk again I use Plesk and don't have any problems at all with it - what version were you running (just curious) as there as been a LOT of improvements to it over the years. I'm not saying it's the best control panel out there but I like it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isdoo Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I was going to post the same - those criticising Plesk are probably comparing an old version. I run Plesk 8.2 and it is much improved over older versions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railto Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 afaik it was a late version of 7, possibly even 8.0, not 100% sure, basically, which ever one 1&1 gave with their servers a few years back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magga Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Fair enough well everyone is entitled to their own opinions - I think Plesk is good personally Give the demos a try as someone else suggested and decide which one you like from there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Outhost could you give some concrete examples of why Plesk is so awful? We're looking for a new cp for our servers and at the moment Plesk is the number one on our list. It seems to be pretty easy to use and according to user comments it's not as heavy as Cpanel. Nevertheless the main reason is that Plesk supports Debian etch. BTW. If we buy the Plesk one time fee license, can we add more than one server or do we have to buy a new Plesk license for all the servers we have? I would also like to hear from the Plesk users comments about the pros and cons of Plesk. And is it possible to translate it? How fully supported Plesk is with whmcs? I guess the order system can be perfectly automatic if paid via paypal, meaning the account can be activated immediately the payment has been done via paypal. WHMCS is able to handle the user account creation in Plesk automaticly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe123 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 We're looking for a new cp for our servers and at the moment Plesk is the number one on our list. It seems to be pretty easy to use and according to user comments it's not as heavy as Cpanel. Nevertheless the main reason is that Plesk supports Debian etch. I can only wish you good luck , because you need it BTW. If we buy the Plesk one time fee license, can we add more than one server or do we have to buy a new Plesk license for all the servers we have? one license for each server , they are not that stupid I would also like to hear from the Plesk users comments about the pros and cons of Plesk. And is it possible to translate it? No its not possible , you have to buy extra languages and pay for them , cpanel you can transtate it and it comes with 11 free languages How fully supported Plesk is with whmcs? I guess the order system can be perfectly automatic if paid via paypal, meaning the account can be activated immediately the payment has been done via paypal. WHMCS is able to handle the user account creation in Plesk automaticly yes whmcs will do everything for you , almost like cpanel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Heh, joe123 thanks for the answer but those are exactly the comments I try to avoid. Can you give me any examples why you're so negative against Plesk? What kind of a problems have you had with it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe123 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Heh, joe123 thanks for the answer but those are exactly the comments I try to avoid. Can you give me any examples why you're so negative against Plesk? What kind of a problems have you had with it? I used plesk till version 8 , and do you know how many times it broke after I run the updater ? this was hell spending hours fixing things . well it might be better now , and as others suggested , best to try it and see for yourself. you maybe will love it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Never fix something that ain't broken Accoring to the changelog they have the latest updates haven't really kept any great features with them. If 8.3 works fine with us we're ready to use it for a long time :> Did you experience any other problems that the updating process? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe123 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Never fix something that ain't broken Accoring to the changelog they have the latest updates haven't really kept any great features with them. If 8.3 works fine with us we're ready to use it for a long time :> Did you experience any other problems that the updating process? Glad you made up your mind NOt Really , other than it is missing few things that cpanel has . and watch out for spammers because they love plesk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isdoo Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Never had any real issues with Plesk - never had any issues with updating, although like any software it is always best to got for .1 rather than .0 of a release. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoggy24 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I have been using plesk for 2 years now and i have never had a server down issue. I make sure i apply updates on backup box before rolling it out for production. Heck any application can be broken by updates sometimes it is not just about the updates released but the enviroment it is running and so many other factors. Company i formerly worked for uses CPanel but i will still pick Plesk over it. The GUI is a lot nicer and easy to use for end user I will say try out the demo and pick the one you like best, no CP is fully secured, even Cpanel cant claim that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaIgniter Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 We use cPanel and have had issues with it, but after testing a few others I would still recommend it. After you learn the ropes any problems you run across are easy to fix. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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