rbro Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 We currently have an Enom reseller "sub-account" through ModernDNS (from our old Modernbill days). I've been looking into "eliminating the middleman" and just signing up directly with Enom as an ETP. It would be a big chunk of cash to get us the domain pricing we're getting now, but I'm curious if any of you have taken that leap? I'm happy with Enom btw...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Hey rbro, same boat here. Sub-account from MB days. Would like to make the leap as well just can't afford it. Don't see why you wouldn't be happy with the move if you can afford it. Agree completely with you concerning eNom. Have never had a problem with them. -Roger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
othellotech Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 We've been an ETP for years, you'll notice 4 differences ... #1 you get better support - non ETPs are *supposed* to go to their "upstream" supplier for support and so if you're not an ETP you get your tickets (quite rightly) dealt with at a lower priority #2 you'll stop funding ModernGigawotsit - they get paid $1 for every domain you register or renew #3 your pricing is set by enom based on your "buy-in" and number fo domains - not whatever value your "upstream" decides to set them to #4 you get invites to take part in promotions etc, exclusive to ETPs So yes, it's worth it as long as you have the few thousand dollars to invest in your business. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbro Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 We've been an ETP for years, you'll notice 4 differences ...#1 you get better support - non ETPs are *supposed* to go to their "upstream" supplier for support and so if you're not an ETP you get your tickets (quite rightly) dealt with at a lower priority I have to say I've rarely needed support from Enom and when I have I can't really complain about it. #2 you'll stop funding ModernGigawotsit - they get paid $1 for every domain you register or renew I despise those guys for a number of reasons, but I really have little to complain about when it comes to "ModernDNS" #3 your pricing is set by enom based on your "buy-in" and number fo domains - not whatever value your "upstream" decides to set them to Good point, but it would cost me about $4000 to have the same pricing I do now but as an "ETP" #4 you get invites to take part in promotions etc, exclusive to ETPs So yes, it's worth it as long as you have the few thousand dollars to invest in your business. $4K is a lot of money to be able to take part in promotions etc. Unless there are some better reasons, I think maybe I'll sit tight for a while. Thanks for your reply though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generic Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 thought about it, even called enom to ask for a discount or smaller buy in, no luck. the only thing they said is if you buy in at the lower cost program, you could upgrade later to the other programs for only the difference in the cost. Its just not worth it unless you have lots and lots of domains, my small 100+ portfolio does not make it worth it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnette Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 But it doesn't actually "cost" you that. Yes you have to put that money in upfront, but if you choose the Advance Point Purchase option you get credits for it, so its not as if its a fee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbro Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 But it doesn't actually "cost" you that. Yes you have to put that money in upfront, but if you choose the Advance Point Purchase option you get credits for it, so its not as if its a fee. I understand that, but it's still a large chunk of cash I'd have to come up with and the advantages over being a sub-account seem fairly negligible to me, unless those "exclusive promotions" are really worth it..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
othellotech Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 unless those "exclusive promotions" are really worth it..... If you're not doing a lot of domain registrations to warrant the investment in being an ETP, then you're not going to do enough to make the promotions worthwhile either. IMHO its worthwhile for the direct support, domains are a fundamental part of our business, and we *must* be able to call the registries up that we use for immediate help if something goes wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salman75 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 We switched to directi some while back because we no longer wanted to keep funding MGB. We got the same rates as an eNom ETP with less than half of the investment required by eNom. One really great thing about directi. The more domains you continue to add, the lower your pricing goes. So it does not matter if you "fund" your account with an enourmous amount to begin with or keep adding small ones as your business grows. Also note that the initial deposit required to become an ETP does NOT include any eNom points. So you will still need to fund your reseller account .... NO such requirement at directi. Really, directi is worth a shot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnette Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I think the problem from my end of it is we sell a lot of .co.uk domain names which are twice the price in directi compared to enom. Also note that the initial deposit required to become an ETP does NOT include any eNom points.They have got different plans and some of those do include enom points it depends which you choose. I also signed up for the reseller account under whmcs does that make a difference with the pricing? The reason I ask is because although on the front page, there are different sales on, only a couple of them are reflected in the pricing that I see. For instance .net isn't as cheap as it says on the front page and the .mobi sale is not in there either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salman75 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I think the problem from my end of it is we sell a lot of .co.uk domain names which are twice the price in directi compared to enom. Yes. Thats the ONLY tld thats more expensive with directi. I also signed up for the reseller account under whmcs does that make a difference with the pricing? The reason I ask is because although on the front page, there are different sales on, only a couple of them are reflected in the pricing that I see. For instance .net isn't as cheap as it says on the front page and the .mobi sale is not in there either. Yes, I think it becomes a subaccount. But you are no longer required to make any advance deposit to fund your account. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbro Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 If you're not doing a lot of domain registrations to warrant the investment in being an ETP, then you're not going to do enough to make the promotions worthwhile either. IMHO its worthwhile for the direct support, domains are a fundamental part of our business, and we *must* be able to call the registries up that we use for immediate help if something goes wrong. Is there a difference (if you know) in terms of the sub-sub accounts that can be created? IOW, an ETP, like MGB can create "reseller sub-accounts", which is what I have. But can I then create a sub-sub account and have my own resellers? What's the difference if you know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
othellotech Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Is there a difference (if you know) in terms of the sub-sub accounts that can be created? IOW, an ETP, like MGB can create "reseller sub-accounts", which is what I have. But can I then create a sub-sub account and have my own resellers? What's the difference if you know? Yes you can, and you can set their pricing based on yours with a minimum of *1.13 (I think) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLLuSi0nS Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I would love to go with directi, I truely would. I have read all the good things about it, only one thing that doesnt allow me to go with them... Have you seen directi's registrar trademark? Its the ugliest stamp ever. lookup a domain that directi has registered, its like a sentance long trademark, very ugly. Enom just says Enom Inc. and OpenSRS just says Tucows...now check microsoft.com's registrar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWR Web Design Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 The interface for DirectI sucks - it's a real shame - as I would be using them now if their setup wasn't so non user-friendly. Does your organisations details show on the WHOIS info for Enom sub accounts? Such as "Registration services provided by TWR Web Design". I know it does on the ETP's, but not sure about the sub resellers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanzo Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 The interface for DirectI sucks - it's a real shame - as I would be using them now if their setup wasn't so non user-friendly. Does your organisations details show on the WHOIS info for Enom sub accounts? Such as "Registration services provided by TWR Web Design". I know it does on the ETP's, but not sure about the sub resellers. I pretty sure subresellers have their own information shown at whois. And yeah, I agree with you. If DirectI's interface wasn't so ugly might have switched but for now, I'll stay at Enom and might spend $1400 to become a Premier ETP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nljc88 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 we just moved from directi (resellerclub) to enom... as directi's systems suck, and support takes way to long to get back to you... also the difference in price between the two is the extra features you get free with each domain from enom... you have to pay under directi... they just couldnt support the most basic requests... and their system takes hours to process simple requests that should be done instantly... seriously would not recommend them EVER TO ANYONE!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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