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Thanks to Matt for point me on the correct direction: Here is what i made to encode user password (i want a separated login from a win32 soft with my own api) so i made a webservice for that without use curl wich waste lot of BW. Here is the snippet: $datos = $db->query_first("SELECT email, password, id FROM tblclients WHERE id='$_SESSION[uid]'"); $salt = explode (':', $datos['password']); $pass = $salt[0]; $hash = $salt[1]; $encode_again_for_check = md5($hash."mypass"); if($pass == $encode_again_for_check){ echo "success, passwords are the same"; } else { echo "wrong password"; } Anything else here: http://wiki.whmcs.com/API:Get_Clients_Password Second: the $db->query_first its from my db abstraction layer so make you one or just use mysql_query