brian! Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, sonuyos said: Its not about that, its about losing clients, getting stolen credit card orders and no liability shift without 3DS. even if it's released in the next 5 minutes, it's going to be in beta for the best part of a month... and you should never use a beta on a live installation as it will be bugged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonuyos Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, brian! said: even if it's released in the next 5 minutes, it's going to be in beta for the best part of a month... and you should never use a beta on a live installation as it will be bugged. I can just take stripe module out of it, even if i do not go full out over it. Plus, thats more of a reason to release soon, so we get final version too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted May 24, 2019 Author Share Posted May 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, sonuyos said: Atleast just release the Stripe Module with 3Ds. Yes, having this module updated at least will feed my hunger a lot. I can wait for six more months to get 7.8/8+ if I have an updated Stripe module as a standalone and quick delivery from WHMCS by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonuyos Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Jafar Muhammed said: Yes, having this module updated at least will feed my hunger a lot. I can wait for six more months to get 7.8/8+ if I have an updated Stripe module as a standalone and quick delivery from WHMCS by now. Ditto. All we need is that damn plugin, worse part is, we cannot even get it made outside, becuase the version is gonna be released soon, and it wont justify it making when its almost ready and already in beta acc to LTS page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted May 24, 2019 Author Share Posted May 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, sonuyos said: we cannot even get it made outside, becuase the version is gonna be released soon This is the primary reason the developers whom I approached said as a reason to not start the project. Having an official plugin which would release anytime soon will make the custom-plugin would make it genuinely useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonuyos Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, Jafar Muhammed said: This is the primary reason the developers whom I approached said as a reason to not start the project. Having an official plugin which would release anytime soon will make the custom-plugin would make it genuinely useless. I really wish they just give us the plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 To try our luck, I have contacted WHMCS support to check if they can release this updated Stripe module; and they said they do not have intentions of releasing this module as a standalone and it will be part of v7.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian! Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Jafar Muhammed said: they said they do not have intentions of releasing this module as a standalone and it will be part of v7.8 which makes sense, because there may well be template/js/css or other core file changes outside of the module that would be required for it to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonuyos Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 They should just give us the damn beta then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHMCS ChrisD Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Hi all, As John mentioned, this will form part of the 7.8 beta, while I don't yet have a release date for the beta, the team is working hard to bring it out, I'll make sure I update this thread and pop a post up in the community once it is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 May is over and the first week of June almost finished. I am eagerly waiting for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman876 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 I have no problem with WHMCS Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donostiarra Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 7:05 PM, Jafar Muhammed said: May is over and the first week of June almost finished. I am eagerly waiting for the update. Hi. June is also over, and still waiting for an update... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian! Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, donostiarra said: Hi. June is also over, and still waiting for an update... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 On June 7th they released a sneak peek of Beta 7.8. It is one more month since then — no idea when this will come to light. Even if it comes today, we will have to wait at least a month to get out of beta and start using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Here is the video from WHMCS. I don't know if WHMCS is busy with making a feature to sync accounts with cPanel, if they are doing that and pausing 7.8, then no idea what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHMCS ChrisD Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 @Jafar Muhammed The team are working hard on getting 7.8 ready for beta, as I'm sure you can appreciate there's a couple of chunky key features in 7.8 that we need to get right, even for beta. Some people will undoubtedly upgrade there production instance to the beta version of 7.8 I'd love to give you an exact date for the release, but I can't all I can say is the age old it's coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHMCS ChrisD Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jafar Muhammed said: I don't know if WHMCS is busy with making a feature to sync accounts with cPanel, if they are doing that and pausing 7.8, then no idea what will happen. Please don't speculate that we are pausing work on the 7.8 beta @Jafar Muhammed, this is not correct, nor is not constructive or helpful to the ongoing discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Hello @WHMCS ChrisD I too wish to start using the Beta in production, but I am worried about the bugs WHMCS usually ships with Beta. My speculation is based on the recent incidents and announcements around cPanel's new pricing model. My potential business push is lowered due to this 3DS compatibility. I know you guys are working hard, and I am so excited to get the new Stripe as fast as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHMCS ChrisD Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 @Jafar Muhammed the cPanel pricing changes have no impact on our plans for the 7.8 Beta and is not impacting the planned release the team are continuing to work on the 7.8 release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Thanks for the clarification. I am eagerly waiting for the release, @WHMCS ChrisD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian! Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Jafar Muhammed said: I too wish to start using the Beta in production, but I am worried about the bugs WHMCS usually ships with Beta. I know you're going to ignore this, but you really should not use a beta in any production setting, nor even a release candidate - and arguably not even the first GA release either. they will all contain bugs to varying degrees, so even if in the first beta, the dev team somehow manage to produce a 100% bug-free stripe module, there are almost certainly going to be bugs elsewhere, or features that you are happily using now removed or changed - anyone of which might have a greater impact on your business than having to wait a few weeks for an updated Stripe module. 2 hours ago, Jafar Muhammed said: My speculation is based on the recent incidents and announcements around cPanel's new pricing model. as Chris says, they'll be irrelevant to v7.8 3 hours ago, WHMCS ChrisD said: I'd love to give you an exact date for the release, but I can't all I can say is the age old it's coming! many years ago, and I suspect i'm thinking 2014 or '15, WHMCS used to do that you know, e.g give users advanced notice when a new version was being released.... of course, that inevitably ended up with users posting on the WHMCS Facebook page, at 00:01 (their local time) on the day of release, demanding to know why the download was not yet available. 🙄 i've always thought that users should be given advanced notice when GA's are released (if only to give developers a heads-up to plan their time accordingly), but WHMCS have a regular habit of adding new untested features after the final release candidate and in the GA release, so I consider the first GA release to effectively still be a beta... and therefore to be treated with caution. ⚠️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 3 hours ago, brian! said: I know you're going to ignore this In reality, I can't even think about using Beta because Softaculous won't release a Beta version. I tried many times, but without Softaculous, I failed to update WHMCS every time, even by using the Update WHMCS utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian! Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jafar Muhammed said: In reality, I can't even think about using Beta because Softaculous won't release a Beta version. you can't imagine the number of threads & PM's i've replied to of users installing WHMCS via Softaculous and it causing issues down the road - but if it's working for you, then that's all good. 🙂 10 minutes ago, Jafar Muhammed said: I tried many times, but without Softaculous, I failed to update WHMCS every time, even by using the Update WHMCS utility. I assume that you don't get your license direct from WHMCS and therefore can't download betas from download.whmcs.com and install/update manually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Muhammed Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, brian! said: I assume that you don't get your license direct from WHMCS and therefore can't download betas from download.whmcs.com and install/update manually? Nope, I get the license from WHMCS directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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