Bigol'tastynuggets

Exactly this! Convenience should be secondary to security! Dual releasing as competitors are doing should be a bare minimum really! I'd rather install SG to servers to allow for my clients to have peace of mind they're not edging closer to being EOL'd its not a complicated process nor should it be ignored as a possibility to save answering tickets - the release date has been moved repeatedly already

Would be great if June does materialise! Something needs to progress one way or another!

I would imagine if it does work, you'll be hit with a ban quicker than you can say "works as intended"

They could just alter the nav item and add some JS to open the live chat when clicked? Surely?

I think he means to establish if it's an email server issue OR a whmcs feature - process of elimination type of scenario. What do the logs indicate on your email server? Does the auth request reach the server?

What a D**k I hope nobody buys any of his work in future!

That's bizarre! Haven't used them but I'd look at alternatives if they don't give insightful information

Yggdrasil is spot on, you'd need to get the data from an external system - I do think it'd be good for that data to be included for admins to see inside of whmcs. A few times we've checked and realised there's something very untoward with a customer- that should be very apparent to us in billing software and not have to go through to an external site for the same integration

That's actually very insightful - shame watchdog never made it into the wilderness! Although didn't MG or one of the big ones get hacked? Anyway, hope you're keeping well and looking forward to leap! We'll be sponsoring when you open up to public sponsors!

To be honest, I don't fully understand what the end goal is @evolve hosting I'm hoping they give some more information! But yes, that makes much more sense to he fair you're usually very polite and nice to chat to! Seemed a bit.off to stop questioning! I wondered if you were on the payroll 😝

OK, well you do what you need to bear! I'm not overly sure what your intention was to be honest...... Me suggesting that others should be allowed to talk, is overruled by a humorous signature and then I'm the troll? Lay off the sauce bear, it's tiresome.

I'm sorry if that view upset you, it was a humorous thing however. 🙄 There's a difference in questioning people's ability to ask a question.... and your quite hilarious given the context reaction to my sig 😜

Nothing wrong with discussion, I don't see why it'd be done that way anyway but the site is pretty dead - I'm shocked whmcs haven't pulled the plug to be honest 🤣 Encourage discussion or there will be no 3rd advertising site left 😜

If you're not sure, Pay someone else to check it or if you're not worried about that then post here! I agree with bear posting it here means you lose your investment, So it depends what you want/need and the agreement around the development. As for competent devs I'm at a loss to recommend anyone as the best ones have lost interest - So the most prominent would probably be someone like wgs I don't know if @bear would be able to recommend someone with experience with building payment gateways and trustworthy? There's lots of people who spam this place but I haven't used them nor heard anything good about them (Apologies if I'm forgetting someone, Send the hate mail or correct me by all means 😝)

There's fanboys for all software, I feel like we've had a civil conversation though:) Well, again I disagree as you've got a hell of a lot transferable skill to manage but to each their own! As I've said multiple times it's what suits you best!